What type of foul, if any?

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Ball has passed through the hoop on a made try, but has not yet been picked up by the opposing team to take OOB to throw-in. There is a push--not enough for an intentional or a flagrant. The clock is running. Is the ball dead or alive? What can/do you call?

Ball is live, call the foul.
Who is the foul against?
If Team A scored and foul is against Team A, give the ball to B for the throw-in on the baseline (B still retains right to run the baseline). If foul is against Team B, give the ball back to Team A for the spot throw-in.

[iref4him]

Basically, when the ball goes through the basket, the ball is dead until the team that is entitled for the throw-in picks up the ball. At that time the ball is live. If any contact occuurs from the time between the bucket being scored and the player picking up the ball to throw the ball in, the contact is ignored unless the contact is intentional or flagrant which would be technical foul (intentional and/or flagrant techinical foul).

If the official did not think it warrented a technical foul, then talking to the players sometimes helps.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by iref4him

Basically, when the ball goes through the basket, the ball is dead until the team that is entitled for the throw-in picks up the ball. At that time the ball is live. If any contact occuurs from the time between the bucket being scored and the player picking up the ball to throw the ball in, the contact is ignored unless the contact is intentional or flagrant which would be technical foul (intentional and/or flagrant techinical foul).

If the official did not think it warrented a technical foul, then talking to the players sometimes helps.

what he said...

Oops sorry. I read too fast and overlooked it hadn't been picked up yet.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by iref4him

Basically, when the ball goes through the basket, the ball is dead until the team that is entitled for the throw-in picks up the ball. At that time the ball is live. If any contact occuurs from the time between the bucket being scored and the player picking up the ball to throw the ball in, the contact is ignored unless the contact is intentional or flagrant which would be technical foul (intentional and/or flagrant techinical foul).

If the official did not think it warrented a technical foul, then talking to the players sometimes helps.

What rule makes the ball dead during this time?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

What rule makes the ball dead during this time?

Uh, Rule 6, "Live Ball and Dead Ball"?
See 6.7.1.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Uh, Rule 6, "Live Ball and Dead Ball"?
See 6.7.1.

Also 6.1.2b for when the ball becomes live again.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Junker

Also 6.1.2b for when the ball becomes live again.

Right, but he didn't ask about that.

[Junker]

Nope, but it certainly comes into play for this type of situation.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

In our JV game last night, there was a foul called during this dead ball period. It was a common foul. I asked at the break about it, and he said if the ball was dead, he would've called a tech, it was significant enough to call that. So I said I was glad he was wrong about whether it was dead.

Then after the break, he told me it wasn't dead, because he talked to his mentor, one of the V refs that night, a guy I know pretty well. He said it was live, because the clock was running. Takes a whistle to make the ball dead, he told me. I didn't think that was right at all.

Thanks everyone.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

In our JV game last night, there was a foul called during this dead ball period. It was a common foul. I asked at the break about it, and he said if the ball was dead, he would've called a tech, it was significant enough to call that.

By rule, then, the personal foul he called should have been either intentional or flagrant.

Then after the break, he told me it wasn't dead, because he talked to his mentor, one of the V refs that night, a guy I know pretty well. He said it was live, because the clock was running. Takes a whistle to make the ball dead, he told me. I didn't think that was right at all.

You're right, coach - the varsity ref needs to look back over his rulebook.

Just as a clarification for everyone reading, the ball becomes live again when it is at the disposal of the inbounding team, which may come before the inbounding team touches the ball.

[iref4him]

Rule 6 Live Ball and Dead Ball
Section 7 Dead Ball
The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:
Article 1: A goal, as in 5-1, is made.

Rule 5, Section 1
Rule 5 Scoring and Timing Regulations
Section 1 Goal
Article 1: A goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through. No goal is scored if an untouched throw-in goes through the basket.

Rule 6: Live Ball and Dead Ball
Section 1: Live Ball - Article 2
The ball becomes live when:
a. On a jump ball, the tossed ball leaves the referee's hand(s).
b. On a throw-in, it is at the disposal of the thrower.
c. On a free throw, it is at the disposal of the free thrower.