Double Checking 3 Answers?

[imaref]

A sign of "old age".....they keep changing the rules on us!

I know these answers may be obvious to most of you....but, just wanted to double check with all the experts to see if I'm still with it.

NFHS BB - Part II

25. "Continuous motion only applies if the defensive foul is committed against the shooter."
TRUE - (Can an off-ball foul against another team member of the shooter have any significance with "continuous motion" on the shooter? ie: counting the basket on a foul away from the shooter?)

40. "If both parts of a double personal foul are intentional, each fouled player is awarded two free throws."
FALSE - No free throws....throw-in POI.

76. "A team member may wear jewelry provided he/she does not become a player."
FALSE - My partner & I disagree over this statement. He feels he can't penalize if the person with jewelry doesn't become a player. I maintain that the person wearing jewelry is a "team member" and as such...3.5.1 refers to "team members" shall not wear equipment/apparel that is not appropriate, and 3.5.7 refers to jewelry not permitted....I'm assuming....among "team members". A'm I reading too much into this? Or, heaven forbid, my partner is correct when he says the statement is True because the "team member" hasn't violated anything until they become a player.

Thanks in advance of your responses!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by imaref

76. "A team member may wear jewelry provided he/she does not become a player."
FALSE - My partner & I disagree over this statement. He feels he can't penalize if the person with jewelry doesn't become a player. I maintain that the person wearing jewelry is a "team member" and as such...3.5.1 refers to "team members" shall not wear equipment/apparel that is not appropriate, and 3.5.7 refers to jewelry not permitted....I'm assuming....among "team members". A'm I reading too much into this? Or, heaven forbid, my partner is correct when he says the statement is True because the "team member" hasn't violated anything until they become a player.

Thanks in advance of your responses!

You can't penalize anyway, There is no penalty. Sure, players can wear jewelry on the bench. They can't wear it during warm-ups, though, if they're out on the floor, and they certainly can't come into the game with it. But there's no penalty, remember that.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by imaref

A sign of "old age".....they keep changing the rules on us!

I know these answers may be obvious to most of you....but, just wanted to double check with all the experts to see if I'm still with it.

NFHS BB - Part II

25. "Continuous motion only applies if the defensive foul is committed against the shooter."
TRUE - (Can an off-ball foul against another team member of the shooter have any significance with "continuous motion" on the shooter? ie: counting the basket on a foul away from the shooter?)

FALSE -- it applies on any foul by the defense.

[jritchie]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FALSE -- it applies on any foul by the defense.

So if A1 has started to go up for a jump shot, and B1 fouls A2 under the basket before A1 shot is released, if it goes in you count it and give A2 free throws if they are in the bonus or if not the ball out of bounds? I just thought the ball had to be released first before you could count it.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by jritchie

So if A1 has started to go up for a jump shot, and B1 fouls A2 under the basket before A1 shot is released, if it goes in you count it and give A2 free throws if they are in the bonus or if not the ball out of bounds? I just thought the ball had to be released first before you could count it.

Your thought is correct.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Your thought is correct.

Whoa, there! Jritchie's thought was NOT correct. If A2 is fouled while A1 is in the act of shooting, the basket will count even if the ball is still in A1's hand at the time of the foul. It does NOT have to be released.

Continuous motion applies to any defensive foul (as long as it's not part of a double foul), just as Bob J said.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jritchie

So if A1 has started to go up for a jump shot, and B1 fouls A2 under the basket before A1 shot is released, if it goes in you count it and give A2 free throws if they are in the bonus or if not the ball out of bounds?

Yes.

I just thought the ball had to be released first before you could count it.

No. See 6-"the ball becomes dead when" and read one of the notes / exceptions (sorry, I don't have the books handy, so I can't be more specific)

[imaref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You can't penalize anyway, There is no penalty. Sure, players can wear jewelry on the bench. They can't wear it during warm-ups, though, if they're out on the floor, and they certainly can't come into the game with it. But there's no penalty, remember that.

So....is the statement " A team member may wear jewelry provided he/she does not become a player." .... True or False?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by imaref

So....is the statement " A team member may wear jewelry provided he/she does not become a player." .... True or False?

False.

From a POE in the 2002-03 rule book --"No team member may wear jewelry during the pre-game warm-up period or during the contest". Team members are defined as bench personnel who are in uniform and eligible to be becoime a "player", under rule 4-34-4.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes.



No. See 6-"the ball becomes dead when" and read one of the notes / exceptions (sorry, I don't have the books handy, so I can't be more specific)

6.7.7 Exception c.

If you can log into NFHS.org, the rules and case books are available online.

[jritchie]

Thanks, learn something everyday! That is why this board is great.

[imaref]

Originally Posted by imaref

40. "If both parts of a double personal foul are intentional, each fouled player is awarded two free throws."
FALSE - No free throws....throw-in POI.

Everyone agree that 40 is False?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by imaref

Everyone agree that 40 is False?

I'm not everyone, but I agree that it is false, by virtue of Rule 10 Summary 1-c.