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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 09:10am
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UP here we run 2-man games. The double whistle thread on following the play from your area as T to L's area got me thinking.

If we have a double whistle, it usually isn't on the same foul. It would be a foul in L's primary and a travel in T's, or something like that. What would you do in this situation?
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 09:15am
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You have to get together and decide which one happened first and penalize only that infraction. (Unless an intentional or flagrant foul occured after the violation.)
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 09:15am
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UP here we run 2-man games. The double whistle thread on following the play from your area as T to L's area got me thinking.

If we have a double whistle, it usually isn't on the same foul. It would be a foul in L's primary and a travel in T's, or something like that. What would you do in this situation?
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 09:36am
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Whatever you do, do it quick!
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 09:39am
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Or quickly.
OK, now come on! I will not correct anyone else anymore (any errors in that sentence?). OK?
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2006, 11:46pm
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You have to get together and decide which one happened first and penalize only that infraction. (Unless an intentional or flagrant foul occured after the violation.)
Care to give us a bit more detail on this one?
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Old Sat Dec 16, 2006, 03:35am
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If you decide that the violation occurred first. you have to penalize the following contact if it's intentional or flagrant. Otherwise, you would ignore it. You can call a "T" on the contact under 4-19-1NOTE and 4-19-5(c) if the contact is intentional or flagrant Then, you penalize both --->the violation and also the following intentional or flagrant foul.

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Old Sat Dec 16, 2006, 06:31am
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You absolutely need to pregame this situation with your partner. Good partner communications and trust on the floor is essential. We do exclusively 2 official games as well, and the following seems to work:

1. On the double whistle make immediate eye contact with your partner.
2. Trail drops their call and lets Lead take it as primary UNLESS Trail has something really important that needs to be called (ie: a travel that would negate a foul), in which case Trail immediately comes STRONG with the call and Lead drops their call and lets Trail take it.
3. In the few remaining situations where you do need to get together, hold both the eye contact and your initial signal (ie: raised fist) while simultaneously using your peripheral vision to freeze the floor, then do it quickly.

It only takes a second, and once you get a feel for it, happens almost instantly. Doing it this way will cover about 98% of these situations and restrict the need to "get together" to those situations you really need to.
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