Unbeckoned coach...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

By rule that is a direct technical foul on the coach. I would tell the coach that I am letting that slide, but as a trade-off he is going to remove A1 from the game or take a time-out. That is probably the best way to handle it.

Any coach that comes onto the floor to tend to an apparently injured player IS beckoned (at least in my games)....and the player will need to be replaced (or take a timeout). I'll make no mention of coming onto the floor to the coach...aside from requiring the sub.

Now, if he's yelling at me along the way, it may turn out different.

[26 Year Gap]

I was taught to get the beckon hand going in that situation.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Any coach that comes onto the floor to tend to an apparently injured player IS beckoned (at least in my games)....and the player will need to be replaced (or take a timeout). I'll make no mention of coming onto the floor to the coach...aside from requiring the sub.

Now, if he's yelling at me along the way, it may turn out different.

Exactly. If a player is injured, the coach can considered himself beckoned whether he was or not. And I also agree that if the coach comes out, the player leaves.

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Exactly. If a player is injured, the coach can considered himself beckoned whether he was or not. And I also agree that if the coach comes out, the player leaves.

Right on. Give the Coach some leeway - but they get on the court - the player leaves.

We are advised to show great care with a down player. Stop play ASAP. Get players away and let experts attend to them.

If you waive a coach off and the kid is hurt - or has some ailment the coach knows about - bad ankle, concussion last game, sore back, dad's a lawyer, etc - best you "pass the issue" to the Coach immediatly.

[deecee]

nevada why would you tell the coach to sub the player -- if you stopped him half way he really hasn't tended to any player he just got stopped by you.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

nevada why would you tell the coach to sub the player -- if you stopped him half way he really hasn't tended to any player he just got stopped by you.

Maybe because it says so in 3-3-5...

". . . A player who has been injured to the extent that the coach or any other bench personnel is beckoned and/or comes onto the court shall be directed to leave the game, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to, his/her team and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out."

The rule says nothing about actually tending to the player. You are adding that criterion yourself. According to the rule just being beckoned and/or coming onto the court warrants the sub situation.

Don't put your personal interpretation into this rule. The NFHS has specifically asked officials NOT to do that in POE #5 this year.

"Officials need to be aware that personal interpretations of the rules have a negative impact on the game. The rules are written to provide a balance between offense and defense, minimize risks to participants, promote the sound tradition of the game and promote fair play. Individual philosophies and deviations from the rules as written negatively impact the basic fundamentals and tenants of the rules."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Any coach that comes onto the floor to tend to an apparently injured player IS beckoned (at least in my games)....and the player will need to be replaced (or take a timeout). I'll make no mention of coming onto the floor to the coach...aside from requiring the sub.

Now, if he's yelling at me along the way, it may turn out different.

Camron,
We're saying the same thing. I agree with your post, but if he gives me any grief about replacing the player, then he needs to be informed of the break that he just got.

[SmokeEater]

I had this situation last season. The Coach may not necessarily need to be beckoned onto the floor to tend to an injured/or apparently injured player. BUT, once they enter the playing area the player MUST be replaced by a substitution. Somewhere in rule 3 section 14, I think, going by memory here.