Philosophy

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

The tone of your responses seems a little snippy.

Could you please find another word to use instead of that one?

Shudder.......

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...194#post357194

Your quotes were:

- "It is hard to keep up when you ARE working three different rulesets. I know in the pros and college....."

- "You are still allowed to work anything you want if you work in the WNBA and the NBA D-League. Don't forget about semi-pro and pro-ams in the summer as well. I have to keep up with these rulesets as I work and will be working with all of these rulesets. I hope that one one day I will be able to narrow it down to two, and finally to one, but for now that is how it has to be".

You stated that you are working three rulesets. I just want to clarify that if you are, then you are wrong in your interpretation of LGP and how to make a block/charge call in three different rulesets too.

In response to the first quote, I was just saying that it IS hard when you are working 3 different rulesets. There has been times where I went from HS rules to ncaa, to pros within a weeks time frame.

In response to the 2nd, I should have stated it better. It should have said, "as I have worked and will be working with all of these rulesets".

In response to the 3rd. I was talking in future tense, meaning that at one point in time I will hopefully be working all 3 levels and have to juggle the 3, and narrow it down to 2, and then to 1.

I think I understand LGP just fine, but we will just have to agree to disagree.

Sorry for the previous misunderstanding.

[tomegun]

Is btaylor and tenesseeref the same person?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

In response to the first quote, I was just saying that it IS hard when you are working 3 different rulesets. There has been times where I went from HS rules to ncaa, to pros within a weeks time frame.

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What level NCAA games are you working or did work? D1? D2? D3? NAIA? JC?

What pro leagues do you work or did work? WNBA? NBDL? CBA? ABA? Other?

Just wondering......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Is btaylor and tenesseeref the same person?

You mean is he working in the.....wait for it.....SEC?

[tomegun]

Rainmaker, I understand what you are saying. Also, I don't think it is ever too soon - or the level too low - to start doing and thinking about things the right way.
I often notice that the best officiated high school games occur when one or more of the officials is vilified for doing something that is right but not popular. Many officials don't want to do things that aren't popular and/or don't have the intestinal fortitude (JR) to make correct calls. IMO this is one cause for inconsistency in the high school game.
I did (or didn't depending on how you look at it) something last night that was correct, but didn't make a coach happy. I T'd the coach up after another play although he was upset about the original situation. One of my partners did something later that was blatantly inconsistent and the coach got upset and rightfully so. I apologized to the coach later for our inconsistency; he still earned the T and wasn't right in the first place. A little awareness from my partner would have resulted in a more consistent game. Not related to the OP, but oh well!

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You mean is he working in the.....wait for it.....SEC?

Wait for it...yes!

Funny how one SEC can affect another SEC! Some people won't get that and I know it was a low blow, but whatever.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

Call a block on a player with LGP. No way! no How.

If a players is playing good defense we should never penalize it, when the player is playing marginal defense then they get called for the foul. If this player does not move the feet, and had LGP (no extensions out side of the frame... etc) It is most likely nothing or PC...

Or a no call followed closely by a travel.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What pro leagues do you work or did work? WNBA? NBDL? CBA? ABA? Other?..

In btaylor's defense (not that he needs me from it), it's entirely possible to use the pro ruleset without being anywhere near an actual pro league. Around here (and in many parts of the country, from what I'm told), there is a "pro-am" league which is basically an men's adult league that has former small-time D1 players in it. They use the NBA rules and mechanics, but no way is it a "pro" league.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In btaylor's defense (not that he needs me for it), it's entirely possible to use the pro ruleset without being anywhere near an actual pro league. Around here (and in many parts of the country, from what I'm told), there is a "pro-am" league which is basically an men's adult league that has former small-time D1 players in it. They use the NBA rules and mechanics, but no way is it a "pro" league.

Um, yeah, I was certainly aware of that. Usually when someone says that they are working pro leagues though , they are are talking about the players being paid for playing in games where admission is being charged. Personally, I don't count rec leagues as being related to pro ball in any way, shape or form. That includes the Jr. NBA leagues too. Rec leagues are rec leagues. That certainly is not a put-down of rec leagues and the officials that work in them either. We service rec leagues of different calibres in our area too. I also know that some rec leagues use NCAA rules too. That doesn't make them college games.

I just got the impression from Mr. Taylor that he was experienced and actually working in real college and pro games. He did state that he has worked pro and college ball.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I just got the impression from Mr. Taylor that he was experienced and actually working in actual college and pro games. He did state that he has worked pro and college ball.

Yeah, but originally, I thought he just said he used pro rules. My bad.