Free Throw Violation?

[rainmaker]

Was it NFHS rules? Because I think NCAA allows people to step in on the release, don't they? so this strategy wouldn't be as effective, as in fact it wasn't, even if you didn't blow the whistle.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Was it NFHS rules? Because I think NCAA allows people to step in on the release, don't they? so this strategy wouldn't be as effective, as in fact it wasn't, even if you didn't blow the whistle.

FYI, Juulie, NCAA allows for the players in the marked spaces to go on the release. The shooter and all players behind the arc still have to wait for the rim.

[RunninRef]

NFHS rules. I did call the free throw shooter this morning on the phone and "ate some crow"!!!! When he answered the phone, I introduced myself as "the bone-head official who made the terrible call last night". We had a good laugh and decided that we both learned something last night from the game. Thanks for everybody's help!

[deecee]

wow talk about taking rec league to serious -- give it a year or two and the only time you will be calling a player will be to leave obscene messages about his inability to make an uncontested layup.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by deecee

wow talk about taking rec league to serious -- give it a year or two and the only time you will be calling a player will be to leave obscene messages about his inability to make an uncontested layup.

Shhhhh. Not so loud. The statute of limitations hasn't expired on some of those calls yet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

wow talk about taking rec league to serious -- give it a year or two and the only time you will be calling a player will be to leave obscene messages about his inability to make an uncontested layup.

You forgot "anonymous."

[Adam]

Don't beat yourself up too bad. You didn't cost anyone a possession.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

FYI, Juulie, NCAA allows for the players in the marked spaces to go on the release. The shooter and all players behind the arc still have to wait for the rim.

Mark -- thanks for the clarification. My point was that the strategy of bouncing the ball off the rim seems pretty stupid if the defenders can step into the lane on the release. For the shooter to have to wait takes away even more of the supposed advantage. It's legal, but why bother? It's not going to help!! But if this was played under NFHS rules, then of course that's different.

Still, in the OP the defender did get the ball, so now I'm wondering if the reason we don't see more of this is because it just doesn't work?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Mark -- thanks for the clarification. My point was that the strategy of bouncing the ball off the rim seems pretty stupid if the defenders can step into the lane on the release. For the shooter to have to wait takes away even more of the supposed advantage. It's legal, but why bother? It's not going to help!! But if this was played under NFHS rules, then of course that's different.

Still, in the OP the defender did get the ball, so now I'm wondering if the reason we don't see more of this is because it just doesn't work?

The idea is that it is thrown sufficiently hard that it hits the rim and bounces back before the defense has time to move in. It usually doesn't work not because of the defense, but because it takes a perfect throw to have the ball bounce straight back to the shooter. It's really hard to hit a 1/2" curved target from 15' at precisely the right angle to get a direct return.