Officials in the IU/W. ILL game

[j51969]

One of the officials (while center) during free throws would position himself inside the three point line half way between the endline and the free throw line (odd). The other two guys stood about even with the three point line and half way between the free throw line and the top of the key. This guy is doing big ten games I'm sure he has a reason for being where he is. Does anyone else do this, and if so, what advantage do you gain by this location?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by j51969

One of the officials (while center) during free throws would position himself inside the three point line half way between the endline and the free throw line (odd). The other two guys stood about even with the three point line and half way between the free throw line and the top of the key. This guy is doing big ten games I'm sure he has a reason for being where he is. Does anyone else do this, and if so, what advantage do you gain by this location?

I've never seen this. But since the first thing you do as C after the throw goes up is to step down to better see the rebounding action, perhaps he's just saving steps and starting down there. If that's the case, it makes some sense. Why not put the C down there and bring the T down to watch the line? It's not like the T is doing anything other than hiding from the coaches at the half line.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

It's not like the T is doing anything other than hiding from the coaches at the half line.

If he's doing this on the last FT or either FT on a 1&1 then he's doing it wrong.

[jcarter]

I also noticed that, it was either this game or the Duke Holly Cross game I was flipping back and fourth and cant remeber now, Anyway, one of the officials was doing a visable count for the 10 second count on a free throw.

Is it different in the colledge ranks that they do this? I dont work those levels im just starting to work high school but, it was just something I noticed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jcarter

I also noticed that, it was either this game or the Duke Holly Cross game I was flipping back and fourth and cant remeber now, Anyway, one of the officials was doing a visable count for the 10 second count on a free throw.

Is it different in the colledge ranks that they do this? I dont work those levels im just starting to work high school but, it was just something I noticed.

Sometimes I think I'm the only one who does this. Since it's in the mechanics, I'll keep it up until I'm told by my assigner to stop.

[Raymond]

Maybe he was trying to relieve his boredom:

Western Illinois 21 19 40

Indiana 41 51 92

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sometimes I think I'm the only one who does this. Since it's in the mechanics, I'll keep it up until I'm told by my assigner to stop.

Are you talking about the visible 10 sec count? If so I agree it is supposed to be done. At least in High School. I do it every time. And like Snaqwells said I will keep doing it until I'm told differently or they change the rules.

By the way my visible count is me opening and closing my outside hand down by my side.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jcarter

I also noticed that, it was either this game or the Duke Holly Cross game I was flipping back and fourth and cant remeber now, Anyway, one of the officials was doing a visable count for the 10 second count on a free throw.

Is it different in the colledge ranks that they do this? I dont work those levels im just starting to work high school but, it was just something I noticed.

It's supposed to be visible (just a "hand flick" or "opn and close the hand") in FED and NCAAM, not visible in NCAAW.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's supposed to be visible (just a "hand flick" or "opn and close the hand") in FED and NCAAM, not visible in NCAAW.

Someone may want to mention that to Steve Welmer.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by jcarter

I also noticed that, it was either this game or the Duke Holly Cross game I was flipping back and fourth and cant remeber now, Anyway, one of the officials was doing a visable count for the 10 second count on a free throw.

Is it different in the colledge ranks that they do this? I dont work those levels im just starting to work high school but, it was just something I noticed.

As others have mentioned, this is still a Fed mechanic:

Official's Manual
#240-f. (Two Person Mechanics) The Trail official checks the position of the thrower's feet and begins the visible count (wrist flick).
#350-f. (Three-Person Mechanics) The Center official checks the position of the thrower's feet and begins the visible count (wrist flick).

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

If he's doing this on the last FT or either FT on a 1&1 then he's doing it wrong.

True. Although that does not negate my point. Why not put the C down there, bring the T in closer, and give him something to do during each free throw?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

True. Although that does not negate my point. Why not put the C down there, bring the T in closer, and give him something to do during each free throw?

Who watches the players along the lane? If the C is where it was described, how can they watch the players along the opposite side of the lane for violations, cheap elbow fouls, etc.? I believe the current Fed. mechanics, and NCAA-W, for that matter, is to have the C step onto the court from the sideline about 6 feet, and up almost even with the top of the key. That gives them the good look across the paint and at the shooter.

This way, the L should watch the opposite side of the lane from them, the C should watch the shooter and the other side, and the T gets all the other players that aren't on the lane. As j51969 posted, it sounds like the C was way too far down.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Who watches the players along the lane? If the C is where it was described, how can they watch the players along the opposite side of the lane for violations, cheap elbow fouls, etc.? I believe the current Fed. mechanics, and NCAA-W, for that matter, is to have the C step onto the court from the sideline about 6 feet, and up almost even with the top of the key. That gives them the good look across the paint and at the shooter.

This way, the L should watch the opposite side of the lane from them, the C should watch the shooter and the other side, and the T gets all the other players that aren't on the lane. As j51969 posted, it sounds like the C was way too far down.

JIm, we don't watch opposite sides in NCAA-W anymore...L is in close-down on last shot and watches strong-side rebounding and C has weak-side rebounding, so the old watch across isn't really applicable anymore...

[j51969]

He did it on all free throws