She "kicked" it, and then I kicked it

[Adam]

Smitty,
The rule book says "striking." However, the NCAA Ruling on this says pretty clearly that trapping the ball with the legs fits the definition. HS refs generally defer to this interpretation due to the lack of an official interpretation from the Fed.

In my scenario, picture a hockey goalie squeezing his shins together to prevent the puck from going between his legs. That's what the player did in my game. The ball actually bounced off of one leg (while she was moving them together to redirect the ball) before she got it trapped, while she was moving her hands down to grab it.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Smitty,
The rule book says "striking." However, the NCAA Ruling on this says pretty clearly that trapping the ball with the legs fits the definition. HS refs generally defer to this interpretation due to the lack of an official interpretation from the Fed.

In my scenario, picture a hockey goalie squeezing his shins together to prevent the puck from going between his legs. That's what the player did in my game. The ball actually bounced off of one leg (while she was moving them together to redirect the ball) before she got it trapped, while she was moving her hands down to grab it.

I totally understand the scenario and I know that probably most people would call this a kick - I just don't see it clearly being so based on the wording of the NFHS rule. I didn't realize that the NCAA ruling actually referenced this exact scenario, so that would definitely make me lean more toward that way of thinking. It's difficult to back it up with an explanation based on that darn "striking" word, though, in a purely NFHS scenario. I would be much happier if they changed "striking" to "contacting". Thanks for the NCAA interpretation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I totally understand the scenario and I know that probably most people would call this a kick - I just don't see it clearly being so based on the wording of the NFHS rule. I didn't realize that the NCAA ruling actually referenced this exact scenario, so that would definitely make me lean more toward that way of thinking. It's difficult to back it up with an explanation based on that darn "striking" word, though, in a purely NFHS scenario. I would be much happier if they changed "striking" to "contacting". Thanks for the NCAA interpretation.

I should clarify, the NCAA interp addresses a loose ball situation. A1 squeezes the ball between his legs while B1 grabs it with his hands. This is, according to the ruling, a kicking violation on A1. In light of this and in the absence of an alternate ruling from the Fed, I have to interpret "striking" as "moving to contact."

[Adam]

Interesting connection, Mick. The rule says nothing about intent with the fist; so by rule, any contact with the fist should be a violation. going to depend on the play, though.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Smitty,
The rule book says "striking." However, the NCAA Ruling on this says pretty clearly that trapping the ball with the legs fits the definition. HS refs generally defer to this interpretation due to the lack of an official interpretation from the Fed.

Generally ?
C'mon, Snaq !
I can think of at least one or two guys that have never seen, or heard, that interpretation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mick

Generally ?
C'mon, Snaq !
I can think of at least one or two guys that have never seen, or heard, that interpretation.

Yeah, fair enough.