Foul then Buzzer then shot - Interesting brand new ruling

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by biz

I'm confused Mark. If you have definite knowledge that there was .3 seconds remaining in the game when the foul occurred why then are you cancelling the basket?

5-10 seems to say that the quarter has not ended if you have definite knowledge of the time remaining therefore you can count the goal, award the free throw and finish the game.

The horn sounding made the ball dead.

[biz]

but by putting time back on the clock we're saying the horn sounding is a timer error aren't we?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by biz

but by putting time back on the clock we're saying the horn sounding is a timer error aren't we?

I don't think so. The exception I referenced before (5-6-2 Exception 3) is pretty clear that the timer is not expected to be perfect in this situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

I don't think so. The exception I referenced before (5-6-2 Exception 3) is pretty clear that the timer is not expected to be perfect in this situation.

I disagree. The timer may not be expected to be perfect, but if we're correcting the timer error, we need to let that bucket stand.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I disagree. The timer may not be expected to be perfect, but if we're correcting the timer error, we need to let that bucket stand.

That's just it, though - we're only correcting the timer's error.

The elimination of "lag time" means that we can go back and put time on the clock (if we have definite knowledge, of course); it does not mean that any of the rules regarding live ball/dead ball have changed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

That's just it, though - we're only correcting the timer's error.

The elimination of "lag time" means that we can go back and put time on the clock (if we have definite knowledge, of course); it does not mean that any of the rules regarding live ball/dead ball have changed.

So, are you saying that if you know how much time to put on, you'll put the time on and disallow the basket?

[deecee]

in such a close stich put .3 or .4 -- either way even nothing will change the outcome because of .1 seconds. it would be different if we had video replay to more accurately gauge the effects of .1 seconds but we do not so all we can go on is a very close estimation. I agree that the clock should stop with the whistle -- so in such a split of time you know its under 1 second and you should have an idea of whether its under .5 or not -- from there just massage it a bit

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So, are you saying that if you know how much time to put on, you'll put the time on and disallow the basket?

Yes.

For the record, I actually prefer the interpretation put forth on the district 3 website, but I believe that it is not supported by rule.