Foul-buzzer-shot

[Jurassic Referee]

Foul--->buzzer---->release.

The ball becomes dead when the horn goes. Rule 6-7-6. If a foul occurs, rule 6-7-7 also says that the ball becomes dead, with exceptions. Rule 6-7-6EXCEPTION(a&c) say that the exception keeping the ball live only applies if the ball was in flight before time expired. Therefore the ball is dead on the buzzer, no basket, and the shooter gets 2 FT's for being fouled in the act of shooting.

[Nevadaref]

Found it!

5.6.2 SITUATION D: Team A trails 60-59 with just a few seconds remaining in the fourth quarter of play. A1 is fouled in the act of shooting by B1 but time expires before the ball is in flight. A1 is awarded two free throws. The coach of Team B is charged with a technical foul before A1's attempts. A1 makes: (a) neither throw; (b) one throw; or (c) both throws. When does Team A shoot the free throws resulting from the technical foul? RULING: In (a) and (b), the two free throws for the technical foul are attempted as part of the fourth quarter as the foul occurred before the fourth quarter had ended. In (a), the two free throws for the technical foul will determine if an extra period is necessary. In (b), the one successful free throw ties the game and if either free throw for the technical foul is successful, no extra period is required. In (c), the two successful free throws dictate there will be no extra period. The free throws for the technical foul are not administered as the outcome of the game has been determined. A quarter or extra period does not end until all free throws which could affect the outcome of the game have been attempted and related activity has been completed. (4-41-1; 5-6-3 Exception; 6-7-7)

Damn, just saw that while I was searching JAR beat me to it. Good work JAR.

[BloggingRefGuy]

Thanks, y'all.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

JAR beat me to it. Good work JAR.

My existence is somehow justified. (finally)

[Texas Aggie]

Lancelot is the C

Is he still around?

What I don't understand about your scenario is that Lance said "no shot" and Gil called the foul. Then Lance said "act of shooting", but he didn't call the foul; Gil did. Its up to Gil to determine whether the foul was in the act of shooting. If in the act of shooting and the foul was called prior to the horn, you shoot 2 free throws.

The tougher question, in my view, here is that if the shot isn't released prior to the buzzer sounding, can it count if the ball goes in? In other words, are we shooting 2 FT and not counting a shot under that situation?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

The tougher question, in my view, here is that if the shot isn't released prior to the buzzer sounding, can it count if the ball goes in? In other words, are we shooting 2 FT and not counting a shot under that situation?

That question has already been answered above. The ball has to be in the air when the buzzer goes to count. Always. The cites to back that up are contained in my last post above.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

The tougher question, in my view, here is that if the shot isn't released prior to the buzzer sounding, can it count if the ball goes in? In other words, are we shooting 2 FT and not counting a shot under that situation?

Do a search of the forum - this one has come up quite a bit over the years.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

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Ah, Dexter! He's back.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Ah, Dexter! He's back.

Yup - big exam tomorrow, combined with the umpire signalling a TD at the end of last night's Rutgers-WVU game made me come back for a look. I try to keep up with the forum every once in a while.