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Strange Night
Worked a boys JV game tonight. Partner was a newbie and had only had a couple of JV games. The guy calls everything... I mean everything!!! At one point we had 15 fouls and I'd called 3. At half the 3 guys for V are dressing in the room. They mention that he needs to let some things go.... several times. Second half, faster whistle. At a 60 TO I mosey over and mention that he might want to slow his whistle down and look for an advantage, etc. Must have made him nervous because his whistle speeds up. Game lasts FOREVER...1 hr 40 minutes. I'm walking out afterwards thinking, "I'll never get anything much more here. The AD calls me over and says. I'm a man down, I need you for a V Friday night and to bump you up to boys V next Tuesday." Go figure!
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Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. -Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) Timing has been impactful throughout history. Be thankful that you are the beneficiary this time around! Congrats!
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Long night here too. Varsity Boys . . . 29 First Half Fouls! 17 on one team, 12 on the other. We were in Double Bonus at the end of the FIRST quarter! I would love to say that we COULD have let a few go, but in every case the fouls were good and solid, some were even borderline intentional. NO questioning their validity. I called SEVEN player control fouls, 5 on one team, 2 on the other. ONE GAME! I have never seen anything like it. Second half was MUCH better. I think we called 7 and 8, respectively. Ended up a 40 point blowout, but still . . .
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So let me see if I understand you: You're working maybe your 2nd or 3rd JV level game of your life and four officials with much more experience ranging from 9 - 34 years tell you you're doing it wrong, so you keep doing it? I don't think so.
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I'd tell the guy at half something like, "look, here's the deal: we can get anyone out here to blow a whistle every time there's contact. The reason we have YOU out here is to determine what contact is deemed illegal and what is deemed incidental." Then talk about protecting the shooter and those who have legally gained an advantageous position, etc. |
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I'm going to fall into the SME camp on this one.
Here's how my learning curve has gone so far in regards to whistle blowing .I am at the beginning of my 3rd year. Doing the JH/sub-varsity circuit. Year 1 -I had a quiet whistle. I had heard and read all about this mysterious Advantage/Disadvantage. So unless it involved a fracture of some sort I passed. And if I deemed it a hairline fracture well that might get a whistle. Or maybe not.The advantage gained wasn't THAT BIg. So needless to say I didn't call alot........Consequences of that were my games got way out of control, lots of trainwrecks-that I didn't have the skills to fix, and screaming ,upset partners I mean coaches. Alot of the times not so much fun for me. Year 2 - Starts out the same as Year 1. Varsity ref shows up for one of my JV games. Halftime asks if he could make some comments. His comments were blow that thing. Blow it till hades freezes over. Call everything. Anything and everything gets a whistle. Her ponytail brushes another player tweet. Tweet till your lips hurt.I did that for about 2 weeks. Then I started to learn about ADD/DISadv. Now I call the obvious and most of the time I can make rational, logical whistles around ADV/DISADv. I am more confident, out of my last 30 games I have had only 1 go sideways on me. Partners and coaches have discussions with me instead of pleading for me to tweet that thing. So instead of learning Adv/Dis I needed to learn to tweet and then move up the learning curve. The closet analogy I can come up with is I needed to know how to do fractions before trying to solve calculus problems. I think when officials are starting out they are just blowing whistles . It is a baptism by fire kind of thing...... |
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My bet is he was also calling in your area and watching the ball. So also mix in the conversation at half that he is working too hard. I believe he will be tired from making so many calls that by the end of the game, it will revert back to normal, in fact, you may have to reach into his area to get one or two because he's too tired. Guys that want to call everything, I just let them do all the work. They also get to take all the heat. |
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what does rule 4-27 say verbatim? Last edited by bob jenkins; Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 01:46pm. |
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