Working With a Homer

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I've seen it, twice, by the same offiical in rec league games.

Men's Open league - guy swallows his whistle while B tries to foul and stop the clock. He continues to ignore the foul. Then, during the end of the game and after it, B1 eats his *** up. He does nothing. Neither did I. If he's going to offiicate like that, then I'm not bailing him out.

Next week, we have the same Team B again. B1 comes into the game late, as he arrived late. I'm C, Homer is T tableside. I have B1 down in the baseline corner defending. Homer calls a foul from T. WTF? He reports, we inbound the ball. He does it again. This time, I walk across the floor and tell him if he's going call that ****, he can go over there and inbound it his damnself. At half time, I eat his butt up, telling him he'd never ever pull a stunt like that again. He says, "I'm gonna get him back for the other night."

A year later, Church League Championship game - I saw him intentionally make phantom calls against a team that allowed the opponent to come back from 10 down with less than a minute remaining and win the game.

So I guess he's in that .1%. But don't say it doesn't happen because it does.

If he ever attempts to join our HS association, I'll blackball him in a New York minute.

B1 should have brought a doughnut for T.

[tjones1]

I don't think I've ever worked with a "homer." There was this one time, however, I believe it was two 7th regional games down in a little, little town. I think that's the closest I've ever came to working with a "homer." Bob, what you say?! Just playing, of course, hope your family had a great holiday weekend!

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I don't think I've ever worked with a "homer." There was this one time, however, I believe it was two 7th regional games down in a little, little town. I think that's the closest I've ever came to working with a "homer." Bob, what you say?! Just playing, of course, hope your family had a great holiday weekend!

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No homer that time, but in an 8th grade conference championship game in a small, small town not real far from there while I was congratulating his kids on playing a good game, the losing coach told me that I sucked and that I had homered him twice that year. I was impressed! I had never seen his team before and the only game I did in that gym all year was the 8th grade championship. You've gotta be really good to homer someone and not even be there!!!

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by refnrev

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No homer that time, but in an 8th grade conference championship game in a small, small town not real far from there while I was congratulating his kids on playing a good game, the losing coach told me that I sucked and that I had homered him twice that year. I was impressed! I had never seen his team before and the only game I did in that gym all year was the 8th grade championship. You've gotta be really good to homer someone and not even be there!!!

Dang Bob, you're right. You should have got an award or something for pulling that off.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Dang Bob, you're right. You should have got an award or something for pulling that off.

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I have enough satisfaction in knowing that the guy is an idiot, he's reached the zenith of his coaching career at age 26 or so, and no other coach in his conference can stand him.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by refnrev

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I have enough satisfaction in knowing that the guy is an idiot, he's reached the zenith of his coaching career at age 26 or so, and no other coach in his conference can stand him.

Interesting. Sounds like a true Junior High coach!

[mick]

Originally Posted by refnrev

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No homer that time, but in an 8th grade conference championship game in a small, small town not real far from there while I was congratulating his kids on playing a good game, the losing coach told me that I sucked and that I had homered him twice that year. I was impressed! I had never seen his team before and the only game I did in that gym all year was the 8th grade championship. You've gotta be really good to homer someone and not even be there!!!

Aw, all you refs look alike.

[Old School]

To answer the question, I would not assume this person is doing it intentionally. Tell them at half or at some point in the game to try to be consistent. This is the key word. It is not offensive to your partner either to tell them this. Tell them, if it's an offensive foul down here, than it's an offensive foul down there.

In my experience, if my partner appears to be calling the game lopsided, I will try as any good partner should, try to balance out the calls. Sometime this will send a message back to your partner to quit calling it uneven, or they may begin to see the fouls on the other end. More often then not, this has been the response from my partners and this is just what you want.

If these things don't work, then it's out of your control. Don't worry about it unless you truley want to see the other team win.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Old School

if my partner appears to be calling the game lopsided, I will try as any good partner should, try to balance out the calls.

You have GOT to be kidding.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You have GOT to be kidding.

Not to worry, ScrappyDoo. The Ol' Feller ain't an official; he's a troll.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You have GOT to be kidding.

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What Scrapper said. Old School, no offense, but I have to ask, are you really an official or are you just having fun on this forum. Some of your posts really make a bunch of us wonder?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Old School

In my experience, if my partner appears to be calling the game lopsided, I will try as any good partner should, try to balance out the calls. Sometime this will send a message back to your partner to quit calling it uneven, or they may begin to see the fouls on the other end. More often then not, this has been the response from my partners and this is just what you want.

The best thing to do is not to try and balance out the calls. The best thing is to call your game and not worry about your partner until the locker room. Then, if you know he's doing it, tell him/her to knock it off.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

In my experience, if my partner appears to be calling the game lopsided, I will try as any good partner should, try to balance out the calls. Sometime this will send a message back to your partner to quit calling it uneven, or they may begin to see the fouls on the other end. More often then not, this has been the response from my partners and this is just what you want.

Never, never, never, "balance" out your partner's calls. I can't think of a faster way to end your career. I can't think of a more unfair thing to do.

Let me ask you, Old School, do you also try to balance out calls you know you missed?

[tjones1]

So Old School, when the coach is complaining about the foul count. Do you grant him/her their request by evening up the fouls? What about violations?

[Old School]

I think the key thing here is to be consistent with your calls. If the foul count is 8 to 1, that doesn't seem to be consistent to anyone in the gym. I bet there are calls you could have made that you passed on because you didn't think there was enough disadvangate. I think if you consistently keep calling games uneven like that, it will shorten your career. I also think, smart officiating is keeping foul counts even and trying to be consistent.

Do I make calls to even up the foul count? No, of course not, but I do monitor foul counts.

If my partner if blasting a lot on one team. Then I try to make sure that the same type of foul is being called on the other end.

Proper balance is the key to a good game and a good life.

Peace