Ncaa Blarge?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

The other way to simplify the matter is no preliminary signals. This is what gets everyone in trouble. If we simply just blow and wait to see who's area it is in and then yield to the official whos primary it is in, we would be okay. Just my 2 cents.

You mean, raise your fist and make eye contact? What a very basic thought!

Wonder why those that are supposed to be the best don't follow this basic fundamental?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You mean, raise your fist and make eye contact? What a very basic thought!

Wonder why those that are supposed to be the best don't follow this basic fundamental?

Inquiring minds would love to know!!!!!

[Junker]

Does anyone else think the number of blarges is rising? Last season I remember a week when I saw at least 3 on television games. I watched a NAIA varsity game the other night (I worked the JV before hand) and saw the L and T come out with PC mechanics right away on 2 plays. Luckily they both saw it the same way. I agree that the women have it right. With good mechanics, a blarge should not happen in my opinion.

[GoodwillRef]

I think the one problem we have is that we really want to sell that block/charge call and sometimes we get quick with our mechanics (human nature) with this call.

[Gimlet25id]

Most of the time the call is coming from trail or center to lead. That being said its real hard for lead to lay off the call or even hold off giving the prelim. We pre game just that. If the play is coming from C or T then lets just asssumee that L is going to sell the call first. If C or T has a whistle then hold off on giving a prelim. for a split second.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Gimlet25id

Most of the time the call is coming from trail or center to lead. That being said its real hard for lead to lay off the call or even hold off giving the prelim. We pre game just that. If the play is coming from C or T then lets just asssumee that L is going to sell the call first. If C or T has a whistle then hold off on giving a prelim. for a split second.

Unless the Lead is calling across the paint, right Tomegun?

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Unless the Lead is calling across the paint, right Tomegun?

You were reading my mind!
This is something that I firmly believe should be talked about or trained on with perfection in mind. During the game things happen so trying to be perfect before hand could help. My thoughts:

• If there is a prelim, it should come from the lead
• If the play is on the C's side and the C has had the play the whole way to the basket, let the C make the call
• If the C doesn't make the call and the lead has a whistle, delay it enough for "Oh _____" to run through your mind

It still baffles the mind how many times the lead calls across the paint on ordinary, run of the mill, happens all the time, generic, simple, done it a million times, easy, why are you looking there anyway, if you want to look there you should have carried your tail over there, plays! Without fail, the lead will go tooting his/her tooter instead of letting the C do what they are there for.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Gimlet25id

Most of the time the call is coming from trail or center to lead. That being said its real hard for lead to lay off the call or even hold off giving the prelim. We pre game just that. If the play is coming from C or T then lets just asssumee that L is going to sell the call first. If C or T has a whistle then hold off on giving a prelim. for a split second.

I honestly believe that this is the main reason why there are fewer problems with this issue on the NCAA-W side...we preach, teach, and pound into each other that it is the LEAD who should hold off on these whistles...let the T or the C take it all the way to the hoop. On the NCAA-M side, the Lead jumps all over these calls and that's why (only IMO) they end up with blarges.

[jritchie]

it does happen a lot because the play is coming from the T or C most of the time and they have seen the WHOLE PLAY and then the L comes over quick and has to try and make the call, instead of giving it to the one that has seen the play the whole time! I agree with the NCAA-W on this one...get together and talk about it, come out with one call!

[Gimlet25id]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I honestly believe that this is the main reason why there are fewer problems with this issue on the NCAA-W side...we preach, teach, and pound into each other that it is the LEAD who should hold off on these whistles...let the T or the C take it all the way to the hoop. On the NCAA-M side, the Lead jumps all over these calls and that's why (only IMO) they end up with blarges.

I work the women's side and will still pre game this. I'm not talking about the plays that are clearly in C's or T's primary I'm talking about those plays that originate in C or T but end up on L. We are more then likley to get a double whistle but L will usually want to go ahead and sell the call. Thats why we pregame for C or T to hold on giving prelim. for a split second.

[Jesse James]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I think the one problem we have is that we really want to sell that block/charge call and sometimes we get quick with our mechanics (human nature) with this call.

Probably not a popular position, but if you truly don't give a crap what players, fans, and coaches think, then why is "selling the call" a huge issue anyway--especially at the expense of risking blarges. Just raise your fist, eye contact, and signal.

[Gimlet25id]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

Probably not a popular position, but if you truly don't give a crap what players, fans, and coaches think, then why is "selling the call" a huge issue anyway--especially at the expense of risking blarges. Just raise your fist, eye contact, and signal.

Good point!! Just easier said then done sometimes.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I think the one problem we have is that we really want to sell that block/charge call and sometimes we get quick with our mechanics (human nature) with this call.

I have never had one in my 4th season of officiating, which includes all of the camps I have been to. (Knock on wood)