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4-19-7 A team control foul is a common foul..........
4-19-2 A common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant or intentional....... Sounds false to me. It's good if you got it right on the test, because that's the only place you will ever need that information.
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Originally Posted by just another ref No, but what's that got to do with this? Quote:
My point is that this is rule book language. Multiple choice question: Which of the following passages comes from the rule book? A. There are no free throws on a team control foul unless it is deemed intentional or flagrant. B. While A1 is holding the ball, if A2 commits a foul which is intentional or flagrant, it is not a team control foul. You could get the call right whether you knew the answer to this question or not.
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You may not think it matters, that's fine. But I think if an official reports A2's intentional/flagrant foul as a Team Control foul, Coach A is gonna have a problem when B2 is shooting free throws instead of Team B taking the ball out nearest the spot of the foul. And since IREFU2 and I are in the same HS association I want to make sure he and I are on the same page. Because just our luck, we'll have our first game together and this exact scenario will happen. PS: Rob, I only get heated at my kids, the ex-wife, the occasional girlfriend, and the Philadelphia Eagles' poor tackling.
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I need to get on your level before we have a game together and you would be the Referee to keep the game straight...LOL!!! Is that occasioal girlfriend from Phili????????
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Originally Posted by just another ref Multiple choice question: Which of the following passages comes from the rule book? A. There are no free throws on a team control foul unless it is deemed intentional or flagrant. B. While A1 is holding the ball, if A2 commits a foul which is intentional or flagrant, it is not a team control foul. You could get the call right whether you knew the answer to this question or not. Quote:
I guarantee you most coaches know a lot less about rulebook language than you and I do. If you report a flagrant or intentional foul on A1, I would be amazed if any coach ever asked, "Wasn't that a team control foul?" BUT, they could, and even if they did and you incorrectly informed them that it was indeed a team control foul but you still get free throws since it was intentional/flagrant, 90 something % of coaches would not know the difference. And what difference is there, really? It's in the book as a personal foul. We will shoot 2, B will get the ball at the spot nearest the foul. Now that the test is over, what reason is there for anyone to know whether this an exception to the team control rule, or the fact that the foul is intentional/flagrant means that it is no longer a team control foul.
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It's the same (or nearly so) as whether a player with the ball can commit a personl foul that's not a PC -- clearly so, and FTs would be shot. |
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I could think maybe a flagrant foul on a person who has the ball, but I'm not sure if that's what you were talking about. |
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