After Bob Knight again

[Chess Ref]

Well I will go ahead and step in it. I saw the video of the "gentle lifting" and also of the kid on the bench massaging his "gentley lifted jaw". I mean really at what point do people tell him "thats enough little Bobby go stand in the corner for about 25 years.
He is a bully. If I saw him at the bar he would be considered another fat,hot headed guy who has had lots of practice picking himself off the barroom floor. Cause in the world I live in .you gently lift someone's chin you are in for some gentle lifting of your own.
Assuming the quotes attributed to the parents are accurate these people are brain-dead. I mean he hit your son or gently lifted his jaw and you say it's no big deal. Brain-dead. I don't even know your kid and wanted to punch little bobby in the face. Make little bobby go away.

[Adam]

Good grief. If it's not an all-out assault, let it go. No one put a gun to this kid's head and forced him to play for Knight. It's not like Knight's style has suddenly changed since this kid got recruited.

[Chess Ref]

good grief is right ! What part of no hitting other people doesn't little bobby get ? So if a coach did that to you cause he didn't like a call you made it would be okay cause you voluntarily went there to ref ? I think its a reasonable expectation that little bobby would keep his hands to himself.
Big fat blowhard in position of authority , hits people not in position of authority =BIg FAT BLOWHARD BULLY...

If you don't think that is considered assault try doing it the next time you get pulled over for speeding. I imagine the DA isn't going to let it slide or the cop who puts a whoop a$$ on you for doing it .....

[Official99]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

good grief is right ! What part of no hitting other people doesn't little bobby get ? So if a coach did that to you cause he didn't like a call you made it would be okay cause you voluntarily went there to ref ? I think its a reasonable expectation that little bobby would keep his hands to himself.
Big fat blowhard in position of authority , hits people not in position of authority =BIg FAT BLOWHARD BULLY...

If you don't think that is considered assault try doing it the next time you get pulled over for speeding. I imagine the DA isn't going to let it slide or the cop who puts a whoop a$$ on you for doing it .....

There is a HUGE difference between you doing that to a police officer and a coach doing that to a player. There is a quite a difference in the type of relationship and bond a player and coach have verses a speeder and a police officer or even the player and the referee.

Up until this incident I never had any interest in defending Bobby Knight, but I think the media is making this much worse then it is. Bobby is the guy the media likes to talk about because everyone knows what he is capable of and they try and compare everything he does to what he has done...

[BillyMac]

Is there video of this recent Bobby Knight incident anywhere on the internet ?

[Chess Ref]

I have seen where that "bond" resembles something like The Stockholm Syndrome."

When is little bobby gonna learn to stop hitting people ?

A bully is a bully is a bully. Notice that bobby the bully generally only hits people he is in a position of having authority over.

How about little bobby comes on down to the local watering hole and "gently lifts" the chin of one of the regulars . He doesn't do it cause he knows that they fight back.

When is little bobby gonna learn to stop hitting people ?

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is there video of this recent Bobby Knight incident anywhere on the internet ?

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You don't need a video. It's on Sports Center every 45 seconds! Am I a Bobby fan? Nope! Should he have done this? Nope! Is it anything close to being a big deal? Nope! Do I want to hear about it tomorrow? Nope. Would any other coach in the country have this thing scrutinized to death? Nope.
Move on media guys. Find another story!

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by refnrev

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Move on media guys. Find another story!

Where is TO when you need him?

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by Official99

Bobby is the guy the media likes to talk about because everyone knows what he is capable of and they try and compare everything he does to what he has done...

You are exactly right. Because of his history, Coach Knight is under a microscope. He has nobody to blame other than the mirror because he brought it all on himself. A normal person would know that they are on thin ice and make sure they stay out of the doghouse. However, Coach Knight cannot control his temper and has never admitted to himself that he is a problem and he never will.

He talks about how he demands discipline from his players, but what about self discipline? He'll probably continue to get free passes until he pulls a Woody Hayes.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

good grief is right ! What part of no hitting other people doesn't little bobby get ? So if a coach did that to you cause he didn't like a call you made it would be okay cause you voluntarily went there to ref ? I think its a reasonable expectation that little bobby would keep his hands to himself.
Big fat blowhard in position of authority , hits people not in position of authority =BIg FAT BLOWHARD BULLY...

Ah, now you're just projecting.

I'm a lifelong Hawkeye fan, so I have no love for coach Knight. I watched the whole "Knight-Alford feud" play out over the last few years, and thought less of Knight for it. Although I have found his interviews to be funny over the years; he has also been verbally abusive to reporters and such. He's not a nice guy.

But this whole kerfuffle is just stupid. You don't execute a man for doing 60 mph in a 55 mph zone just because he has a reputation of driving 180 mph. This thing with the chin? It's just 60 mph.

He's a very confrontational coach. No surprise there. The kid wasn't looking up, Knight wanted him to and he needed it to happen quickly. Did you even see the video?

[Adam]

Well said, Rut.

[Texas Aggie]

For the life of me, I can't believe all the Knight apologists here and elsewhere. Does he deserve to be executed for this latest incident? No, but that doesn't mean it was right or even "no big deal." It is a big deal, and the fact that the player isn't saying anything about it means nothing. I guess he just wants to keep his scholarship. Big surprise there.

This incident is symptomatic. Knight is out of control. I'm surprised ESPN is making hey out of this as they are the ones that started the Knight rehabilitation tour with that walk-on documentary. Yes, I watched it, and I came away from it thinking Knight mugged for the camera.

An attack on Knight is NOT an attack on disciplinary coaching. Its an attack on thuggery.

[Adam]

Okay, I've seen the replay a few times, I seriously don't think it's that big a deal. if you want to see him fired over it; so be it. all we can do is ask the player what he thinks and move on. He's an adult; and I'm guessing he could get a scholarship elsewhere if that was his only concern.
Attacking coach Knight for this incident is not an attack on thuggery. Knight may be an a$$, but I'd hardly call him a thug. And this is not assault. Good grief.

[JRutledge]

Everyone in the world do not react the same to types of actions. Some of us grew up with coaches just like that and we do not see the problem. It is not a big deal to me because if that is all that Coach Knight did then I find people that are offended as part of the problem with have in this society. Now you might not have liked what he did, but the kid and the parents could have made an issue out of this. Coach Knight would not have the power to just get rid of a kid's scholarship for what you consider an assault.

We have kids that talk back to all forms of authority. I know players say thing we would have never imagined on the court or do things we would have never imagined. You might not like the style, but there was a time when participants were much more respectful of the game and the officials working. BTW, every single official that I have talked to about Coach Knight and actually officiated with him, liked the man and thought he was one of the fairest coaches they worked with.

The main factor is that Knight is not nice to the media. If he was nicer to the media or did not call them out for asking stupid questions and trying to make mountains out of molehills, he might be loved by them. The media likes people that are nice to them. When they are nice to them, they go out of their way to make them seem better people than they really are behind the seems. All I can say is the people that played for Knight love him and they dealt with him much more than you or me. If his players hated his guts, then I might go there with you.

Peace

[gsf23]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

For the life of me, I can't believe all the Knight apologists here and elsewhere. Does he deserve to be executed for this latest incident? No, but that doesn't mean it was right or even "no big deal." It is a big deal, and the fact that the player isn't saying anything about it means nothing. I guess he just wants to keep his scholarship. Big surprise there.

This incident is symptomatic. Knight is out of control. I'm surprised ESPN is making hey out of this as they are the ones that started the Knight rehabilitation tour with that walk-on documentary. Yes, I watched it, and I came away from it thinking Knight mugged for the camera.

An attack on Knight is NOT an attack on disciplinary coaching. Its an attack on thuggery.

Then there are thousands of coaches all across this country at every level that are thugs. I've seen this done by coaches all the time at all levels and in every sport. If the kid isin't looking at you when you are talking then you pop em under the chin or you pop em in the forhead or you grab the facemask and jerk their head up. Coaches have been doing this forever and they will keep doing it. And again, if you think that Coach K, Roy Williams, Dean Smith or any other succesful college coach hasn't done the same thing before then you are living in a dream world.