Rule question

[Delaney]

Federation rules:
A player cutting along lane towards basket, receives a pass and a) controls pass begins layup and loses ball on own, then regathers and lays it in without dribble, b) never gains possesion of pass as he goes towards basket and in attaining possession uses more than 2 steps to attain it then lays it in. Both scenarios ball never hits the floor, it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Delaney

it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

Bobbled = No control = No traveling. I'd say good basket.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Bobbled = No control = No traveling. I'd say good basket.

the question is?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

the question is?

I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding your comment. The question (I think) was whether it was legal to take 2 or more steps while bobbling the ball and then putting it in the basket. I say, yes, it's legal.

Did I misunderstand the original post, too?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Delaney

Federation rules:
A player cutting along lane towards basket, receives a pass and a) controls pass begins layup and loses ball on own, then regathers and lays it in without dribble, b) never gains possesion of pass as he goes towards basket and in attaining possession uses more than 2 steps to attain it then lays it in. Both scenarios ball never hits the floor, it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

a) no violation

b) no violation

[just another ref]

This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans.

Why do we have to "sell" anything? It's the right no-call isn't it?

Do you really care what the fans think, JAR?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Why do we have to "sell" anything? It's the right no-call isn't it?

Do you really care what the fans think, JAR?

That wasn't the point. The point was that a lot of people, including some fairly knowledgeable coaches, have a fit when the described play happens. I thought perhaps this is what prompted the original question here in the first place. Perhaps that was not the best way to make my point.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

Ummmm, you are kidding right?

[just another ref]

Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref
This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Ummmm, you are kidding right?

Not kidding at all. This is the one good thing about calling little kids games locally where you know everybody. A situation like this happens, the fans all stand and say, in unison, HEY!!You call nothing, the buzz continues for a few seconds, and then it is gone. Later you can pick out somebody you thought should know something, and ask them, "What were y'all yelling about?" The answer goes something like, "That kid, uh, traveled, or double dribbled, or something." Then you can explain the rule and work toward educating the public. (good luck) This also happens A LOT on backcourt and .3 at the end of a quarter.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

the question is?

I meant there is not any question to this
It is a bobble - No possession and no Violation and no call.

It is pretty hard to sell a no call.

The explaination to the coach is simple
Bobble = no possession = no violation
insert visual of football "juggling " signal.

Stop sign
Penalize the insanity!

[deecee]

why is sit. a legal -- he had possesion and goes up and loses possesion on his own?

[Smitty]

You answered your own question. Once you lose control of the ball, you can't travel.

[deecee]

doh -- so no violation? NICE!!!