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Delaney Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:35am

Rule question
 
Federation rules:
A player cutting along lane towards basket, receives a pass and a) controls pass begins layup and loses ball on own, then regathers and lays it in without dribble, b) never gains possesion of pass as he goes towards basket and in attaining possession uses more than 2 steps to attain it then lays it in. Both scenarios ball never hits the floor, it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

Scrapper1 Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:37am

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Originally Posted by Delaney
it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

Bobbled = No control = No traveling. I'd say good basket.

OHBBREF Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:39am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Bobbled = No control = No traveling. I'd say good basket.

the question is? :confused:

Scrapper1 Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:43am

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF
the question is? :confused:

I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding your comment. The question (I think) was whether it was legal to take 2 or more steps while bobbling the ball and then putting it in the basket. I say, yes, it's legal.

Did I misunderstand the original post, too?

truerookie Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaney
Federation rules:
A player cutting along lane towards basket, receives a pass and a) controls pass begins layup and loses ball on own, then regathers and lays it in without dribble, b) never gains possesion of pass as he goes towards basket and in attaining possession uses more than 2 steps to attain it then lays it in. Both scenarios ball never hits the floor, it is bobbled within the hands of the offensive player.
Good basket or no basket?

a) no violation

b) no violation

just another ref Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:16am

This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

Dan_ref Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:34am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

:confused: <b> </b>

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:35am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans.

Why do we have to "sell" anything? It's the right no-call isn't it?:confused:

Do you really care what the fans think, JAR?

just another ref Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Why do we have to "sell" anything? It's the right no-call isn't it?:confused:

Do you really care what the fans think, JAR?

That wasn't the point. The point was that a lot of people, including some fairly knowledgeable coaches, have a fit when the described play happens. I thought perhaps this is what prompted the original question here in the first place. Perhaps that was not the best way to make my point.

IREFU2 Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref
This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."

Ummmm, you are kidding right?:confused:

just another ref Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:49pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref
This is a hard one to sell to coaches and fans. It's the old, "That looked funny, so you should call something."


Quote:

Originally Posted by IREFU2
Ummmm, you are kidding right?:confused:


Not kidding at all. This is the one good thing about calling little kids games locally where you know everybody. A situation like this happens, the fans all stand and say, in unison, HEY!!You call nothing, the buzz continues for a few seconds, and then it is gone. Later you can pick out somebody you thought should know something, and ask them, "What were y'all yelling about?" The answer goes something like, "That kid, uh, traveled, or double dribbled, or something." Then you can explain the rule and work toward educating the public. (good luck) This also happens A LOT on backcourt and .3 at the end of a quarter.

OHBBREF Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF
the question is? :confused:

I meant there is not any question to this
It is a bobble - No possession and no Violation and no call.:cool:

It is pretty hard to sell a no call.

The explaination to the coach is simple
Bobble = no possession = no violation
insert visual of football "juggling " signal.

Stop sign
Penalize the insanity!

deecee Wed Nov 08, 2006 03:51pm

why is sit. a legal -- he had possesion and goes up and loses possesion on his own?

Smitty Wed Nov 08, 2006 04:03pm

You answered your own question. Once you lose control of the ball, you can't travel.

deecee Wed Nov 08, 2006 04:37pm

doh -- so no violation? NICE!!!


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