Medical paroblems: I always ask. Do you?

[JRutledge]

ATX,

Can you reference this requirement? Can you show me one reference in any officiating book that states this is our mission?

When a kid falls out, it is very possible there are many reasons the kid fell out.

When Hank Gathers died on the floor, the family sued every doctor in sight. If there was a doctor at the game that was in the cheap seats and did not get to Hank in 2.1 seconds of him falling to the floor, they were sued.

Coach, you have no clue about officiating or responsibility of those that officiate. Your comments are the very reason why officials have little respect for many coaches. Now we are supposed to override the experience and ability of the people that are in attendance to do the very thing, but all we have to do is buy a striped shirt and that trumps medical training and licenses that states require to be a trainer at a sporting event. WOW!!!!!!

Thanks for confirming what I already know about coaches.


Peace

[ATXCoach]

JRutledge, I have NEVER said you are required to do anything in the event of a serious injury but to provide the opportunity for help to get there unimpeded.

Why do you not see that!!! Why do you keep assuming that I am asking you to preform surgery with your whistle? Please read the paragraph that you have now skipped twice in my original post.

I love this board for the knowledge that I have gained about the rules and their interpretations. I love the debates that you and officiating family have about said interpretations.

I have no knowledge of the rule book that says you need to do or not do anything when a kid gets hurt. If you can sleep at night knowing that you ran away from a kid in need, then you have LOWERED my opinion of many officials.

My concern for the safety and well being of the participants is the "very reason" that you "have little respect for many coaches." Do you realize how heartless and insensitive that makes you sound?

Generally speaking, why does it always seem like you have an us against the world attitude towards players, coaches, and fans? Your knowledge of the rules is amazing and I look forward to reading many more of your posts, but you must have really been burned somewhere in the past by a player, coach, or fan.

Anyhow, we disagree about this topic completely. I'm going back to discussing with Julie/Rainmaker the rim vs release aspects of free throws now.

Goodnight JR

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

JRutledge, I have NEVER said you are required to do anything in the event of a serious injury but to provide the opportunity for help to get there unimpeded.

Why do you not see that!!! Why do you keep assuming that I am asking you to preform surgery with your whistle? Please read the paragraph that you have now skipped twice in my original post.

"I'm shocked and embarrassed at most of the responses to this post."

"I'm glad some of you on this board weren't reffing that game, because she technically saved the ball and it was still live on the court, so what the ruling - play on until the ball is dead and let her lay unconscious on the floor."

"P.S.S. - you do realize that you are officiating a game played by KIDS of varying ages and skill sets of whom a very rare few will ever make any money at. I know you take crap from everyone about the job you do, but don't put the rulebook ahead of the safety of the kids - which is your main task until you are reffing the pros."

These are you comments word for word. The second paragraph had nothing to do with what we were talking about in this post. I do not see anywhere in this thread that someone was talking about a kid getting knocked unconsious during a play. The reference that most of us made was about not wanting to know of a previous condition because we would either not know what to do if such a condition presented itself during a game. Running into a wall is not a previous medical condition. That would be an injury based on an accident while playing a game.

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

You accused people of not being concerned with the safety of the players because they said they did not want to know of previous conditions before the game.

Could you show the quote?

I love this board for the knowledge that I have gained about the rules and their interpretations. I love the debates that you and officiating family have about said interpretations.

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

I have no knowledge of the rule book that says you need to do or not do anything when a kid gets hurt. If you can sleep at night knowing that you ran away from a kid in need, then you have LOWERED my opinion of many officials.

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

My concern for the safety and well being of the participants is the "very reason" that you "have little respect for many coaches." Do you realize how heartless and insensitive that makes you sound?

"Coach, you have no clue about officiating or responsibility of those that officiate. ,Your comments are the very reason why officials have little respect for many coaches."

This is my exact quote from the previous post. Where did I say a thing about safety in those comments? My comments are about your ignorance of the topic and your ignorance of what we were actually talking about. We were never talking about players running into a wall. We were talking about if we knew a kid had a serious condition (diabetes, heart condition, gout or a sprained finger) what we would do as an official. Take your time, go back to the beginning posts, and read them again. Then maybe you can join the conversation.

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

Generally speaking, why does it always seem like you have an us against the world attitude towards players, coaches, and fans? Your knowledge of the rules is amazing and I look forward to reading many more of your posts, but you must have really been burned somewhere in the past by a player, coach, or fan.

“Me against the world?” Dude, you really have a major reading comprehension problem. I sure hope you are not a teacher at a school. If you are no wonder our children are in big trouble in competing around the world.

Peace