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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

...do you agree that a violation occurs even though there was no whistle?

Absolutely not. A violation that is not called is a missed call.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Absolutely not. A violation that is not called is a missed call.

Show me in the rule book where it says that.

[just another ref]

Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref
A violation that is not called is a missed call.

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Show me in the rule book where it says that.

It doesn't, but neither does it say a violation is a violation, called or not.

[just another ref]

Everybody check this one out. This is an example where everybody in the gym knows that a mistake was made, but it is too late to change anything.


This could theoretically be the last possession of a tied game. A's ball, but B comes out of the time-out huddle first. B1 steps out, official hands him the ball, B1 throws to B2, who shoots an uncontested layup to win the game at the buzzer. It was uncontested because everyone knew the ball should be going the other way.

This was a huge mistake, a game-breaker, but not a correctable error.

This example is specifically listed in the case book, I think, because it is relatively common. Obviously space does not permit listing all the possibilities, but the principle is the same.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Everybody check this one out. This is an example where everybody in the gym knows that a mistake was made, but it is too late to change anything.


This could theoretically be the last possession of a tied game. A's ball, but B comes out of the time-out huddle first. B1 steps out, official hands him the ball, B1 throws to B2, who shoots an uncontested layup to win the game at the buzzer. It was uncontested because everyone knew the ball should be going the other way.

This was a huge mistake, a game-breaker, but not a correctable error.

This example is specifically listed in the case book, I think, because it is relatively common. Obviously space does not permit listing all the possibilities, but the principle is the same.

It's also not a case involving either a violation or a foul.

Other than that...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

It's also not a case involving either a violation or a foul.

Other than that...

This argument was not about fouls and violations, it was about a rule being set aside which erroneously result in a score.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This argument was not about fouls and violations, it was about a rule being set aside which erroneously result in a score.

I still don't get how the case play you reference has anything to do with this thread...