shot hits support wire

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

The error didn't "result in erroneously counting...a score." THe error resulted in allowing the ball to stay in play, and that's not correctable. Yes, there was a score, but that wasn't the error. The item you cite refers to things like BI, 3-point shots, and so forth.

But was there a score? In order for there to be a score, a live ball must pass through the net. The ball was dead when it the support. Therefore, aren't you erroneously counting a score?

Juulie, I certainly understand what you're saying, and it opens a messy can o' worms. But, in a real-world situation, I'm going to have more problems telling one coach we're still going to count the score even though everyone saw the ball hit the support, rather than telling the first coach we're going to cancel the score because my partner mis-applied the rule.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

In order for there to be a score, a live ball must pass through the net. The ball was dead when it the support. Therefore, aren't you erroneously counting a score?

Oh? And how did the ball become dead when it hit the support, Karnac? Rule 6-7 is what you're looking for. That's the rule that tells you exactly when a live ball becomes dead. Now, pick out something from R6-7 that tells us why the ball became dead when it hit the support.

Please note that "Shut Up" will not be eligible for part marks.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh? And how did the ball become dead when it hit the support, Karnac?

errr....it didn't became dead because a rule was inadvertently set aside that resulted in the erroneous counting of a score...

geeze, that looks familiar. Where have I read that before...?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh? And how did the ball become dead when it hit the support, Karnac? Rule 6-7 is what you're looking for. That's the rule that tells you exactly when a live ball becomes dead. Now, pick out something from R6-7 that tells us why the ball became dead when it hit the support.

Please note that "Shut Up" will not be eligible for part marks.

6-7-9 - Ball becomes dead, or reamins dead, when a violation (as in 9-2 thru 9-13) occurs.
9-3-1 - A player shall not cause the ball to go out of bounds.
And, finally, what caused the ball to be out of bounds?
9-1-2 (c) and (d) - The ball is out of bounds when it touches or is touched by ...supports...

And finally, Karnac says, "May a diseased yak leave a present in your sock drawer."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

6-7-9 - Ball becomes dead, or reamins dead, when a violation (as in 9-2 thru 9-13) occurs.
9-3-1 - A player shall not cause the ball to go out of bounds.
And, finally, what caused the ball to be out of bounds?
9-1-2 (c) and (d) - The ball is out of bounds when it touches or is touched by ...supports...

And what violation under 9-3-1 and 9-1-2(c&d) got called?

How did the ball become dead, Karnac, if no violation was called?

Again, did the ball actually become dead when it hit the guy wire?

And.....why do they call it a "guy wire" anyway? Why don't they call it a "chick wire"? Not fair! Does Rainmaker know about this?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And what violation under 9-3-1 and 9-1-2(c&d) got called?

Where does it say in the rule that the violation had to be called? The rule only says it's a violation when it occurs. It's our judgement as to whether it has occured.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

How did the ball become dead, Karnac, if no violation was called?

See above.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Again, did the ball actually become dead when it hit the guy wire?

And.....why do they call it a "guy wire" anyway? Why don't they call it a "chick wire"? Not fair! Does Rainmaker know about this?

I know it's not a chick wire, because I'm not attracted to it. Us chick magnets are only attracted to chick wires.

(For those forum members needing to clean up the messes I just helped create, please send me your e-mail, and I will e-mail back paper towels.)

Anyway, Karnac says, "May the fleas of a thousand camels nest in your shorts."