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Old Fri Oct 06, 2006, 12:30pm
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rule book, page 74, line 6 says it is not possible to travel during a dribble...if i have the ball on the dribble and run 10 steps before i put the ball down again, is this not a travel while dribbling....i'm confused..
The rule book is correct and you are confused. FYI - it is not double dribble to dribble twice while not moving your feet either.

While you have the rule book, read the section that covers travelling.
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Old Fri Oct 06, 2006, 12:32pm
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As long as your hand is not on the ball while you are taking those 10 steps you are fine. The likelyhood of a defender not taking the ball during those 10 steps is very slim. Jr's post pretty much says it all. I'm eating while I do this and got beat to the reply.
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Old Fri Oct 06, 2006, 12:34pm
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rule book, page 74, line 6 says it is not possible to travel during a dribble...if i have the ball on the dribble and run 10 steps before i put the ball down again, is this not a travel while dribbling....i'm confused..
If you did this, you would violate, how ever it wouldn't have to be a travel.

If you took the ball between your hand and held it with both hands:
travle, you're dribbel has ended

If you hold the ball "in your hand" not resting it in your palm, I don't belive it really covers if this is an illegal dribble or palming but I'd call palming.

If you rest the ball in your hand while running like this: palming.

So you can dribble and you havn't travelled, but you have still commited a violation.
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Old Fri Oct 06, 2006, 02:27pm
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If you did this, you would violate, how ever it wouldn't have to be a travel.

If you took the ball between your hand and held it with both hands:
travle, you're dribbel has ended

If you hold the ball "in your hand" not resting it in your palm, I don't belive it really covers if this is an illegal dribble or palming but I'd call palming.

If you rest the ball in your hand while running like this: palming.

So you can dribble and you havn't travelled, but you have still commited a violation.
Actually, it is effectively a travel and a carry/palming at the same time. Palming can be viewed as the end of a dribble.

At one time, just a few years ago, the call of "Palming" was removed and we were given the option of travel or illegal dribble. No action was made legal or illegal by this change, just the name of it changed. The violation was either a travel (if the feet moved while the ball was being palmed) or an illegal dribble (if the feet didn't move and the ball was again dribbled).

Because fans/coaches were so accustomed to seeing the palming/carry signal, it was quite confusing to have a "carry" signaled with a traveling signal or illegal dribble signal. The NFHS restored the carry signal to more clearly indicate the call.
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Old Fri Oct 06, 2006, 12:35pm
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Clips, forget steps. The definition of the dribble states that the ball doesn't come to rest in one or both hands during the dribble- rule 4-15-4. Iow, the player is not holding the ball during his dribble; there's no possession. The definition of traveling states that traveling can only occur while a player is actually holding the ball.

If a player ends his dribble by holding the ball, then the foot restrictions of traveling will come into play---not before.
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