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rule book, page 74, line 6 says it is not possible to travel during a dribble...if i have the ball on the dribble and run 10 steps before i put the ball down again, is this not a travel while dribbling....i'm confused..

[JRutledge]

If you take 10 steps before you put the ball down, you have not started a dribble. It is that simple.

Rule 4-15 says: A dribble is ball movement caused by the player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball in the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times.

You cannot have a dribble until this happens.

Peace

[wanja]

It is not a travel to take multiple steps during a dribble between touches. Only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by wanja

It is not a travel to take multiple steps during a dribble between touches. Only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

You also fail the test, as you can travle before you start a dribble.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

You also fail the test, as you can travel before you start a dribble.

Why would he flunk the test?

He referenced multiple steps during a dribble and also talked about the end of the dribble. He didn't say diddly about what happened preceding the dribble.

His answer looked OK to me. What am I missing?

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Why would he flunk the test?

Because he said that you can "only" travel after the dribble ends. You can also travel before the dribble begins, but that wasn't part of the original scenario.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

You also fail the test, as you can travle before you start a dribble.

The OP was about what you can do before you actually dribble. I guess I failed because I made no mention to the pivot foot and other aspects of this rule.

Peace

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The OP was about what you can do before you actually dribble.

I don't think so. Read it again and he says that he has the ball "on the dribble". He's already dribbling and taking 10 steps between each dribble.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I don't think so. Read it again and he says that he has the ball "on the dribble". He's already dribbling and taking 10 steps between each dribble.

He said he had the ball and the dribble and then takes 10 steps before he puts the ball down. It sounds like to me he did not know when a dribble started or when it ended.

Peace

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The OP was about what you can do before you actually dribble. I guess I failed because I made no mention to the pivot foot and other aspects of this rule.

Peace

By that logic, nearly every answer would be incorrect unless the entire rule book was qouted.

While I don't consider it part of my function to grade or score every post, I am comfortable correcting posts that I read that seem incorrect to me if I choose. I have learned by my posts being corrected or questioned.

Side note - Why is it that regardless where I put the "w", "answer" doesn't look correct until I check the dictionary.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by wanja

It is not a travel to take multiple steps during a dribble between touches. Only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

JR,
The first statement is correct. The second one is not. As I read it, is states that you can only travel after dribbling the ball. Perhaps I am being more selective that you might, but I would have agreed with the following statements:

In this situation, only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

or

After starting a dribble, only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

JR,
The first statement is correct. The second one is not. As I read it, is states that you can only travel after dribbling the ball. Perhaps I am being more selective that you might, but I would have agreed with the following statements:

In this situation, only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

Um, Sam....your red highlighted statement above is exactly, word-for-word what wanja actually wrote in his post. Not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, that's why you're confusing the hell outa me.

Anyway....I agree with both of your and wanja's identical statements.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Um, Sam....your red highlighted statement above is exactly, word-for-word what wanja actually wrote in his post.

Guess you picked a bad week to give up sniffing glue. It's not the same as what wanja wrote, b/c wanja left out the qualifying phrase "in this situation". Wanja made it sound like it was only ever possible to travel after ending a dribble. And that just ain't so.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Guess you picked a bad week to give up sniffing glue. It's not the same as what wanja wrote, b/c wanja left out the qualifying phrase "in this situation". Wanja made it sound like it was only ever possible to travel after ending a dribble. And that just ain't so.

JR,
As Chuck's quote above reads, I added "In this situation" and "After starting a dribble" to wanja's statement. I agree with Chuck.

But I won't back Chuck 100% as there are other things you could be sniffing or drinking besides glue.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Guess you picked a bad week to give up sniffing glue. It's not the same as what wanja wrote, b/c wanja left out the qualifying phrase "in this situation". Wanja made it sound like it was only ever possible to travel after ending a dribble. And that just ain't so.

Geeze, are you trying to set a world's record for tiniest nits?

Wanja's previous sentence in his post explained the sequence he was using i.e. during dribble--->after dribble.That was his qualifier.

All we're doing now imo is probably just confusing the sh!t outa everybody....including me.