2 T's on me?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You also need to keep an eye on the bench...and the benches. No way do I want the coaches behind me, especially in a game where it's almost guaranteed that I'm gonna miss something because I'm all alone. If you're cross-court, you can see the coaches anyway if they wanna make some kinda point with you, and you sureasheck can also see if he or his bench is starting to get out of hand too.

Do you honestly believe that a coach might agree with a close call that went against him just because you're on his side of the court? I sureasheck don't. Coaches want all the close calls.

I guess I just haven't had that many bad experiences with coaches b/c I don't operate under the "coach is my enemy" philosophy. The few occassions I have worked 1-man, I haven't had any problems with coaches (including one game with the biggest a-hole on the Peninsula). And I have never had a problem with a bench (1-man, 2-man, or 3-man). Any out-of-line comment from bench personnel I loudly announce for all to hear that no further comments will be tolerated. That ALWAYS has done the trick for me. And I don't need to be "facing" the bench to be able to "manage" the bench, my ears and peripheral vision serve me well.

And a coach letting me know he doesn't agree with a "close-call" of mine isn't the end of the world. Most coaches get their complaint off their chest and move on. And the coaches who ask for an explanation are just happy that I gave them the courtesy of an answer.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I guess I just haven't had that many bad experiences with coaches b/c I don't operate under the "coach is my enemy" philosophy. .

Neither do I, and I also never said anything like that that anywhere either. What I said was that you can use the exact same game management skills from cross-court as you can from in front of the benches. In 3-man coverage, are the official(s) tableside the only ones able to use those skills? The officials across the court can't?

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What I said was that you can use the exact same game management skills from cross-court as you can from in front of the benches.

How can you have a quiet conversation with a coach from the opposite side of the court?

[mick]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

How can you have a quiet conversation with a coach from the opposite side of the court?

Blow the whistle and walk over there.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by mick

Blow the whistle and walk over there.

By definition, this ends the "quiet" part.

[mick]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

By definition, this ends the "quiet" part.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by mick

Hmmm, not sure what that's supposed to mean, Mick. The point of the "quiet conversation" that I mentioned is NOT to draw attention to the fact that you're having it. If I have to walk across the floor (whether I blow the whistle first or not) to have the conversation, I can't help but draw attention to it. If it works for you, fine. I don't particularly like to do it.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mick

Mick, I agree with Chuck on this. Obviously if you're table side C or T there is the potential for a coach to be talking quietly into the back of your head. This sitch requires a completely different approach than when the coach is "communicating with" (read screaming at) you from across the floor.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

How can you have a quiet conversation with a coach from the opposite side of the court?

It's easy

Coach: "HEY CHUCK! GET YER HEAD OUTTAYERAZZ! YOU'RE KILLING ME!!!

Chuck: "whisper whisper whisper..."

Coach: "WHA???! HOW CAN I HEAR YOU FROM ALL THE WAY OVER THERE??!"

Chuck: "whisper whisper whisper..."



Yeah, it's a pretty dumb statement JR made. Maybe he needs a time out?

[zeke]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

It's easy

Coach: "HEY CHUCK! GET YER HEAD OUTTAYERAZZ! YOU'RE KILLING ME!!!

Chuck: "whisper whisper whisper..."

Coach: "WHA???! HOW CAN I HEAR YOU FROM ALL THE WAY OVER THERE??!"

Chuck: "whisper whisper whisper..."



Yeah, it's a pretty dumb statement JR made. Maybe he needs a time out?

Well said.

[mick]

Originally Posted by zeke

Well said.

[sigh !]

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

How can you have a quiet conversation with a coach from the opposite side of the court?

Um, walk across the court maybe?

Chuck, this ain't a freaking NCAA game. It's a kid's game that you're trying to work alone.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Chuck, this ain't a freaking NCAA game. It's a kid's game that you're trying to work alone.

I don't think it matters what kind of game it is. You can't use the "exact" same skills and techniques when you're across the floor. That's my only point.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I don't think it matters what kind of game it is. You can't use the "exact" same skills and techniques when you're across the floor. That's my only point.

Well, then I disagree with your only point too. I think you can.