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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 11:57am
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I found it hard to believe that it actually worked but he swears he used it on several occasions and it worked. Like i said i was just curious what the actual rule was, and if you guys would let it happen. If a coach told you what he was going to do before he used it, would you let it go?
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 11:59am
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He got the ball back for his team, when he instructed his player to go stand in the lane, then a double lane violation was called, his team got the ball back. Anymore brain busters. Or is this what you do all day, sit on here and try and put people down and try and pick apart each scenario, you sound like a real winner, do you live with your mom still, oh wait let me guess you pay her $25 a week for rent, and you mow the lawn, keep up the good work buddy. Im sure you are a great official, Im sure that condescending sarcastic personality of yours makes you a pleasure to work with.
Geeze Louis, are you a friend of this retired coach or his granddaughter?

IMO this tactic sounds like those twice in every lifetime I need to bounce this free throw off the rim, get the rebound and make the putback with 2 seconds left things we see every now and then. Any coach who puts this on page 2 of his playbook is not doing himself or his players any favors.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 12:07pm
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I found it hard to believe that it actually worked but he swears he used it on several occasions and it worked. Like i said i was just curious what the actual rule was, and if you guys would let it happen. If a coach told you what he was going to do before he used it, would you let it go?
Was the hole cut out of the bottom of the peach basket yet when he ran this play?
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 12:29pm
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Like i said it was a short story at the end of a clinic, no relation or ties with the coach, i guess i came to the wrong place if i was looking for some reasonable anwers or discussion. From what i understand the guy was pretty accomplished, so take it for what its worth, and say what you want.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 12:41pm
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Like i said it was a short story at the end of a clinic, no relation or ties with the coach, i guess i came to the wrong place if i was looking for some reasonable anwers or discussion. From what i understand the guy was pretty accomplished, so take it for what its worth, and say what you want.
Yeah this is reasonable, we can use it as a model in the future.


Anymore brain busters. Or is this what you do all day, sit on here and try and put people down and try and pick apart each scenario, you sound like a real winner, do you live with your mom still, oh wait let me guess you pay her $25 a week for rent, and you mow the lawn, keep up the good work buddy. Im sure you are a great official, Im sure that condescending sarcastic personality of yours makes you a pleasure to work with.


Why don't you just start over again, we'll forget the entire thing since we're all so reasonable.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 12:45pm
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i guess i came to the wrong place if i was looking for some reasonable anwers or discussion.
Dude, relax a little, would you? You got the answer. It's a double violation. That's the answer. You got some discussion about whether we'd actually let it happen or not, and about how likely the scenario was to actually happen. You also got some goofy comments about mind control and a peach basket. What's the problem with that?

Hang around a little while before you get ticked off. We answered the question pretty quickly and then had some fun, too. That's called conversation.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 01:14pm
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First time in the forum, maybe i jumped the gun, thanks for the fedback.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 01:22pm
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First time in the forum, maybe i jumped the gun, thanks for the fedback.
Just remember this forum is a stress relief!
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First time in the forum.
Definitely glad you're here. Give us a chance. You'll become as wierd as we are.
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So last spring in my Advanced Math class, I had a student ask:
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 02:20pm
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FWIW, there was a varsity coach (who was pretty successful) in Indiana some 20 years ago, that instructed his players to actually guard the foul shooter, if his player inadvertantly stepped in the lane way early. His thinking was that the shooter was getting another throw on a miss regardless, so do everything within your power to keep him from making the original free throw. The way I understand it, he did it two or three times in one season, until someone tagged his player with an unsportsmanlike T.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2006, 05:42pm
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FWIW, there was a varsity coach (who was pretty successful) in Indiana some 20 years ago, that instructed his players to actually guard the foul shooter, if his player inadvertantly stepped in the lane way early. His thinking was that the shooter was getting another throw on a miss regardless, so do everything within your power to keep him from making the original free throw. The way I understand it, he did it two or three times in one season, until someone tagged his player with an unsportsmanlike T.
Now that I would T as by rule a free throw is "an unhindered try for goal."

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What if the team b player runs and tackles the shooter...disconcertion? No shot taken, I think we can have disconcertion without a shot!
Actually, Ron, I don't have disconcertion here. I'm blowing the whistle upon contact, which makes the ball dead since the act of shooting hasn't begun, and calling a flagrant personal foul prior to that FT being attempted. Assuming that this doesn't lead to a big fight, after reporting the foul, the game will be resumed by first awarding the never attempted FT, plus any merited FTs that were to follow, with the lane cleared and then administering the same player two more FTs for the flagrant personal.

An interrupted FT can be readministered without calling disconcertion. Just think of the play in which the shooter, his head coach, or a teammate requests a time-out after the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, but before he attempts the try.
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