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Mon Feb 07, 2000, 10:28pm
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Friday night boys varsity game tie score with 9 seconds left. Team B shooting double bonus Team A player walks right in front of me I am the trail official and tells his teamate to box out. Just as he turns to walk away my partner the lead, administers the first free throw. As soon as the player shoots and misses the freethrow the team B
coach starts screaming "thats a lane violation you have to call that. technically he is right. but would you call that to decide such a well played close game. The shooter also missed the second freethrow and we went into overtime.What would you call? 
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Mon Feb 07, 2000, 10:36pm
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[quote]Originally posted by D.Hosler on 02-07-2000 09:28 PM
I would have blown the whistle before the shooter made the attempt and started over when all the players were in the proper position. Sound fair?
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Mon Feb 07, 2000, 10:53pm
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If the player did not have the ball in his hands then there was no violation, if the ball was in the hands of the shooter then their was a violation.
If there was a violation it should have been called, it took place right out in front of GOD and everybody and would have been a "no brainer" and no coach could have argued that one. Good luck ------------------ Don
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Mon Feb 07, 2000, 11:26pm
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Not trying to be critical, but your question was not real descriptive.
Was the player who moved to inform his team mate lined up along the lane or was he standing back behind the FT line extended? Did the official hand the ball to the thrower before players were properly set? I read and re-read your post and had the hardest time creating a clear picture of the event. Sorry!
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Tue Feb 08, 2000, 10:07am
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Jim has it correct. Stop play. Even if you don't blow whistle(probably don't have whistle in your month) step in and stop play. the last two things the lead should do is check the table for subs and check for violations to prevent. the other two officials should always be ready to stop play. having said that, yes you should call a violation.
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Tue Feb 08, 2000, 12:23pm
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quote: The Lead official was too quick to administer the free throw. Sounds like he should have been able to see the player who was not in proper position, so he should have waited. If he bounced the ball to the shooter anyway, he should have THEN realized not everyone was set, and gotten the ball back. Either way, it was more the Lead's responsibility than the player's for what happened. You wouldn't want to affect the game with THAT kind of violation.
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Tue Feb 08, 2000, 05:47pm
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quote: Wait a minute. If he was originally "out of the key in backcourt" then moved "about free throw line extended" but always stayed outside the 3-point line and above the free throw line extended - he never violated. Please be more specific. Thanks.
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Tue Feb 08, 2000, 08:04pm
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quote: My thoughts exactly. Where exactly was the violation?
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Wed Feb 09, 2000, 02:35pm
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If he moved into the last spot on the lane after the thrower had the ball, It' a violation, without a doubt. If you pass on it, the free thrower's team is at a disadvantage because of an official's wrong call.
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Wed Feb 09, 2000, 06:46pm
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quote: IMHO, some of the worst and hardest to explain screw-ups are when we officials don't look or count before we administer the ball. That, too, is game management. 
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