help for college

[Brad]

Make sure that you understand the shot clock rules - they can be tricky!

Also, know the differences in the rules - some seem to be the same, but aren't. For example, double foul in HS = point of interruption. Double foul in college = awarded to team in possession of the ball nearest where foul occured. Slightly different, but could be a big difference depending on the game situation.

Personally, after doing men's college for a year or two I had to stop working HS girls. It was just too much of a jump to work a HS girl's game one night and then go work a men's NCAA D3 game the next. Not sure if this is true for everyone, but definitely was for me...

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Brad

Also, know the differences in the rules - some seem to be the same, but aren't. For example, double foul in HS = point of interruption. Double foul in college = awarded to team in possession of the ball nearest where foul occured.

Although Brad's point is a good one -- make sure you really do know the differences between NCAA and FED -- the example that he gave is no longer a difference.

New NCAA rule for the '06-'07 season: Rule 4-51a: The ball will be returned to play at the POI after double fouls and simultaneous personal fouls. Rationale: This creates consistency in where the ball will be returned to play after double fouls and simultaneous fouls.

[JRutledge]

I do not see the transition as being that difficult. Of course the shot clock is now a factor at the college level that is not in most HS situations. You have kids that are bigger and faster at the college level and your whistle has to be much slower and your calls have to be more deliberate. I also agree with Brad. If you are working Men's basketball you need to get rid of Girl's basketball in your sights. I think it is a harder transition to work a girl's game on a Friday and then work a Men's college game on Saturday afternoon. The speed of the game is a huge factor and you do not want to be a couple steps behind when working college ball. Also when you talk plays or see things that take place at the HS level, think of the college interpretation or how it should be handled at the college ranks. This will help you understand the rules differences as the year goes on. If this is your first year you likely are not going to be alternating every night working a HS game then a college game (even big time veterans do not do this as much as you would think). If you are the typical first year college official, you will have plenty of time to go over differences in mechanics, rules and philosophy. You can watch a lot of college basketball to get a feel of what to call and what is expected. If you have a good pre-game, that will help greatly. Just do not over think the job you have to do when you officiate a college game.

Peace

[REFVA]

I am also transitioning to College ball. I am doing Juco and oddly enough I wasn't selected to do D1 while I was at a camp, but they called me to asked if I would welcome doing a scrimmage to get another look at. Has this ever happened to anyone. To be asked after weeks after the camp took place?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by REFVA

I am also transitioning to College ball. I am doing Juco and oddly enough I wasn't selected to do D1 while I was at a camp, but they called me just asked if I would welcome to do a scrimmage to get another look at. Has this ever happened to anyone. To be asked after weeks after the camp took place?

Hm... Let's see..... Do I know anyone that this has happened to?

[REFVA]

Hm... Let's see..... Do I know anyone that this has happened to?

Well, I was told that if you are not selected by the end of the camp, pack it up and try harder for next year.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by REFVA

Well, I was told that if you are not selected by the end of the camp, pack it up and try harder for next year.

My comment wasn't aimed at you. It was a jibe at a friend of mine who looks at this board occasionally. It has to do with something that happened in the last year or two (sheez, my memory is getting bad!) that I like to kid him/her about!

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Hm... Let's see..... Do I know anyone that this has happened to?

LOL.

(How do I get around the "message too short" warning? )

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

(How do I get around the message "too short" warning? )

Grow.........

[ChuckElias]

That's some nifty editing there, JR. LOL

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

LOL.

(How do I get around the "message too short" warning? )

Do you get paid to post these kinds of straight lines?!?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

LOL.

(How do I get around the "message too short" warning? )

[ChuckElias]

That's how you do it? That's wierd. "font=font". What does that do?

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by REFVA

I am also transitioning to College ball. I am doing Juco and oddly enough I wasn't selected to do D1 while I was at a camp, but they called me to asked if I would welcome doing a scrimmage to get another look at. Has this ever happened to anyone. To be asked after weeks after the camp took place?

From JUCO to D1? Shouldn't we be trying to climb the ladder one rung at a time?

Juco
Div III
Div II (If in your area of the country)
Div I

There is a huge difference from JUCO to D-3 let alone D-1 ball.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by RonRef

From JUCO to D1? Shouldn't we be trying to climb the ladder one rung at a time?

So if you were working a Juco game and a D1 assignor met you after the game and said he was impressed and wanted you on his/her staff, you'd turn it down?