Race card played

[Raymond]

I assuming you're an African-American official, black team (uniform) is the Caucasian team, and the white team (uniform) is the African-American team???

Sounds like you did what you were supposed to do in the scenario you described. I wouldn't have bothered to check the score sheet. You had an evaluator watching you, what did he say about how you and your partners handled the situation in particular and the game overall?

[LarryS]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I assuming you're an African-American official, black team (uniform) is the Caucasian team, and the white team (uniform) is the African-American team???

Sounds like you did what you were supposed to do in the scenario you described. I wouldn't have bothered to check the score sheet. You had an evaluator watching you, what did he say about how you and your partners handled the situation in particular and the game overall?

Sorry if I wan't clear. I am Caucasian. Home team was all Caucasian and wore white. Visiting team was all African-American and wore black uniforms.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by LarryS

Sorry if I wan't clear. I am Caucasian. Home team was all Caucasian and wore white. Visiting team was all African-American and wore black uniforms.

what did the evaluator say after the game????

[BktBallRef]

And more specifically, what did he say about your partner's failure to take care of business?

[LarryS]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

what did the evaluator say after the game????

He complimented me on taking care of business and told my partners that one of them should have given the assistant the second T...and qucikly when he kept trying to get in my face. He added that he was not going to get on them very hard as we all did a great job in the game.

Suprisingly (at least to me) I stayed calm the entire time. Probably because I was trying to remember the number of the player and if the shot went in

The really good part of all this is that the evaluator is a personal freind of my assignment secretary. As we were finishing up, he grabbed my arm. When we were alone, he said he saw me work last summer and that "I have elavated my game significantly. I'll work with you anytime, anywhere...and I'll make sure the right people know that." That sure made the drive home more enjoyable...now I just have to do perform at the same level at our camp in a few weeks.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by LarryS

He complimented me on taking care of business and told my partners that one of them should have given the assistant the second T...and qucikly when he kept trying to get in my face. He added that he was not going to get on them very hard as we all did a great job in the game.

Suprisingly (at least to me) I stayed calm the entire time. Probably because I was trying to remember the number of the player and if the shot went in

The really good part of all this is that the evaluator is a personal freind of my assignment secretary. As we were finishing up, he grabbed my arm. When we were alone, he said he saw me work last summer and that "I have elavated my game significantly. I'll work with you anytime, anywhere...and I'll make sure the right people know that." That sure made the drive home more enjoyable...now I just have to do perform at the same level at our camp in a few weeks.

Congrats on the compliments & on handling this well. Like Tom said, what this jerk said is not really a big deal, unless you make it a big deal. Just quietly take care of business.

[JRutledge]

Other than the comment the assistant said, what the hell does this have to do with race? Understand that coaches, fans and players use anything as an excuse for things that do not go their way. It just happens there is a racial element in this situation (where I live this is a very common situation in basketball games). If it was two white teams or two Black teams, then it would have been geography. So what if you were called a bigot, you will be called a lot more if you continue to officate. Also I have no problem with an official giving two Ts. You cannot say you will never be put in a situation where this should not take place. You were already called a bigot, so nothing you do is going to be right anyway.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So what if you were called a bigot, you will be called a lot more if you continue to officiate.

So what if an official is called a bigot? HUH????? WHACK! And pointing at me, too? Flagrant. See ya.

And if he gets called worse, I hope he Ts them up too.

Don't let something like this contribute to ABS - send him to the showers.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Other than the comment the assistant said, what the hell does this have to do with race?

Absolutely nothing. Does that mean he can't discuss it.

The fact is that it was a racist remark, and the fact is he chose to discuss it. If it had been a white coach that made a racist remark to a black official, you'd make a 10 page thread out of it. But I guess since the shoe's on the other foot this time, you don't consider it discussion worthy.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Congrats on the compliments & on handling this well. Like Tom said, what this jerk said is not really a big deal, unless you make it a big deal. Just quietly take care of business.

He issued a T to a player who said, “Bullsh!t call!” and then T'd the asst coach who complained about it. Isn't that having rabbit ears? Isn't that what you said about my removing a fan who yelled, "That's bullsh!t."?
What was that you were saying in the other thread to me about walking and talking?....

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So what if you were called a bigot, you will be called a lot more if you continue to officate. .... You were already called a bigot,

Is that inappropriate language for an NFHS game? What would you do about it? Would you have word with the coach? Or perhaps this is another one that you would just ignore?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is not a racist remark. The coach was accusing him of something. Not sure how it is racist to accuse someone of a certain behavior or action.

That's not racist??? Are you for real???

What do you think that something is? Perhaps it is being a racist! What gave me that clue...hmmm... Oh, it was when the coach said, "YOU ARE A BIGOT!"

Well, when that behavior is racism, it kind of puts it in the ballpark. Maybe, just maybe...

Lastly just for clarification, would it be racist to accuse someone of being a member of a certain hood-wearing, cross-buring secret society? Or accusing someone of wearing a white hood and burning a cross?

What if a coach said to you, "You should be lynched?" Would you consider that racist?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

He issued a T to a player who said, “Bullsh!t call!” and then T'd the asst coach who complained about it. Isn't that having rabbit ears? Isn't that what you said about my removing a fan who yelled, "That's bullsh!t."?
What was that you were saying in the other thread to me about walking and talking?....

Ahhhh...so now you're AGAINST T'ing players or coaches for objectionable language.

Tell ya what my friend. Why don't you go figure out exactly what your position is & get back to us when it's all clear to you.

OK?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Congrats on the compliments & on handling this well. Like Tom said, what this jerk said is not really a big deal, unless you make it a big deal. Just quietly take care of business.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

He issued a T to a player who said, “Bullsh!t call!” and then T'd the asst coach who complained about it. Isn't that having rabbit ears? Isn't that what you said about my removing a fan who yelled, "That's bullsh!t."?
What was that you were saying in the other thread to me about walking and talking?....

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Ahhhh...so now you're AGAINST T'ing players or coaches for objectionable language.

Tell ya what my friend. Why don't you go figure out exactly what your position is & get back to us when it's all clear to you.

OK?

Nope. You missed the point, Dan. Why did my post quote you first? Since I was sarcastically responding to what you said. I even put the .

I would have issued those Ts myself. I would have even made that last one flagrant.

You are the one who is flip-flopping. In one thread you tell me that it is having rabbit ears to do something about someone saying "bullsh!t" and then in this thread you praise the official for taking care of business. You can't have it both ways.

"Why don't you go figure out exactly what your position is & get back to us when it's all clear to you."---Back at ya.