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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 11:09pm
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Fight during game
I saw a commercial for the nightly news while watching a show on my DVR. There was a fight in a game. Well, it wasn't much of a fight - one player got beat pretty bad. One of my friends from Vegas saw it this morning and told me it would probably be national news.

Does anyone know if this clip has made it to the internet yet and have a link?
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 08:31am
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I saw a commercial for the nightly news while watching a show on my DVR. There was a fight in a game. Well, it wasn't much of a fight - one player got beat pretty bad. One of my friends from Vegas saw it this morning and told me it would probably be national news.

Does anyone know if this clip has made it to the internet yet and have a link?
Hey Tom...wtf are you talking about?

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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 09:06am
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Hey Tom...wtf are you talking about?
Geeze, Dan, this was all over ESPN this morning.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 09:33am
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Geeze, Dan, this was all over ESPN this morning.
That's a fight??

Looks like he's giving him noogies.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 11:11am
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foxnews has the video of the real fight on its website.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 11:20am
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foxnews has the video of the real fight on its website.
Whoa.

THAT'S a fight!
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 11:43am
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Hard to know what led up to it, but the white kid definitely shoved the black kid first and then the black kid retaliated. He got his money's worth too. That's some ugly video.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 11:45am
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That's not a fight, that is a cheap-a$$ attack by a kid that doesn't have the sac to come at someone head on.

The precedent was set in South Dakota, I wouldn't be surprised to see charges filed.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 12:22pm
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That's not a fight, that is a cheap-a$$ attack by a kid that doesn't have the sac to come at someone head on.
The other kid shoved him first. It wasn't a sneak attack, it was a retaliation. If the first kid didn't expect to be hit back, then he's stupid, too. That doesn't make either kid right; I just don't think it was "cheap".
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 02:52pm
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 03:24pm
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 03:37pm
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The other kid shoved him first. It wasn't a sneak attack, it was a retaliation. If the first kid didn't expect to be hit back, then he's stupid, too. That doesn't make either kid right; I just don't think it was "cheap".
Chuck--Does this include the four full-throttle punches to the head of an unconcsious person lying on the floor? Is that "retaliation" too?
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 03:41pm
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The other kid shoved him first. It wasn't a sneak attack, it was a retaliation. If the first kid didn't expect to be hit back, then he's stupid, too. That doesn't make either kid right; I just don't think it was "cheap".
After finally seeing it, thanks to BayStateRef, I gotta agree with you. That certainly wasn't what could be called an "unprovoked attack" imo either. That doesn't justify the beatdown, but you also don't know if there was a history there or if something happened between those two previously in that game either. You can't go by the story from one side only.

Both refs did the right thing too imo. Someone got there off the bench real quick and both refs stood back and watched.
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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 03:59pm
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Now.....what's your call as an official?

Personally, I think I'd call that a "fight" and give both players flagrant personal fouls for fighting.

NFHS rule 4-18-2 - "Fighting includes....an attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act towards an opponent that causes an opponent to retaliate". NCAA rule 4-23-3(b) basically uses the same language.

Write 'er up real good, and let whoever game management was on that game deal with the fall-out.

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Old Fri Jun 23, 2006, 04:00pm
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From the other coach:

Kris Maples coaches the Wichita Youth Basketball league team that squared off against a team of 14-year-olds from Lawrence March 26th.

After being shoved, one of Maples' players clotheslined and then pummeled a player from the Lawrence team. Home video caught it all on tape.

Maples says his player was only responding to several elbows the Lawrence player had thrown during the course of the game.

http://209.248.155.133/fox/fullstory.asp?id=14210
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