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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 07:53pm
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disposal of the shooter
From association meeting last night:
Exactly when does the ball become at the disposal of the free throw shooter? After the Ref bounces the ball or after the ball gets to the shooter? At stake here is whether or not the ball being bouned to the shooter is live or not and whether or not team B can step into the lane and call a time-out while the ball is being bounced to the shooter but not reached them yet. FYI-I said team B can still call a time-out up until the time the ball actually reaches the shooter, but I can't find anything in the book to confirm or deny this. The only thing I am going on is an IAABO question from a few years ago but I don't think I have a copy of it anymore. 
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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 08:07pm
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When it's caught by the shooter. FED 4-4-7b. NCAA 4-16-1b.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 08:13pm
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If the count did start on the bounce, just think of the fun we would have if the shooter decided to not catch it, and goes bouncing down to the other end of the floor as we're counting...
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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 08:09pm
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The rule isn't crystal clear:
Rule 8 Free Throw SECTION 1 FREE-THROW ADMINISTRATION ART. 1 . . . When a free throw is awarded, the ball shall be placed at the disposal of the free thrower (bounced) by the administering official and the free throw count shall begin. Either or both teams may be charged with a violation. So, if you declare it "at the disposal" of the thrower when the ref releases the bounce pass, then you gotta start counting 10 before the thrower even gets it. And you have to consider any last-second lane changes to be violations. Those would be the down sides; I don't see any up sides. It would also be inconsistent with the (awarded) throw-in where the ball isn't at the disposal of the thrower until it is physically available to him/her. So put me down for the ball being "at the disposal" when the thrower has, or should have, physical possession of it.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 08:10pm
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Bits, check out the cites I posted. It's crystal clear.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006, 08:10pm
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Or, you can do it Chuck's way
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