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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 09:20am
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Actually I meant Team A's is going from the backcourt to the front court and A scores on B's basket. Make sense now?
If they were confused as to which way they were going and went from backcourt to frontcourt (which would actually be their frontcourt to backcourt, I think) and scored in wrong basket then that would be over and back violation before the score. Or am I reading too much into this and don't understand what actually happened. Unless the inbounds pass was into the backcourt (or is that the frontcourt) Ohhh I am soo confused now.

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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 09:27am
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If they were confused as to which way they were going and went from backcourt to frontcourt (which would actually be their frontcourt to backcourt, I think) and scored in wrong basket then that would be over and back violation before the score. Or am I reading too much into this and don't understand what actually happened. Unless the inbounds pass was into the backcourt (or is that the frontcourt) Ohhh I am soo confused now.

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Long story short - A2 scored on Team B's Basket.
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 09:29am
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 10:32am
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I also see smokey's point, it all depends where the ball was inbounded, becuase if it were in the front court and then B moved into their back court, you have a violation occur first so the basket is no good, Then it goes back to if the official recognized that a backcourt violation occured but not called and the you have a correctable error. And basket doesn't count..

As for a tip in, then you award the basket to the player closet to the play, and the other team get the points, meaning Team B, WOW.....
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 12:42pm
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I also see smokey's point, it all depends where the ball was inbounded, becuase if it were in the front court and then B moved into their back court, you have a violation occur first so the basket is no good, Then it goes back to if the official recognized that a backcourt violation occured but not called and the you have a correctable error. And basket doesn't count..
Completely wrong. A violation that wasn't called is not a correctable error. You cannot go back and call it retroactively, and you also can't go back and cancel the made basket retroactively.
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 01:00pm
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As for a tip in, then you award the basket to the player closet to the play, and the other team get the points, meaning Team B, WOW.....
This is also not correct. As JR already pointed out, no player is credited with the points when the ball is scored in the wrong basket. It's simply stated in a footnote at the bottom of the scorer's page.
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 02:46pm
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The biggest thing is to make sure that the team that scored also inbounds the ball. Do not allow the other team to inbound it otherwise you will really be screwed up.

When this happens to me (it has happened to me occasionally), I whistle the play. Signal to the table to score it, making sure it gets added on the scoreboard to the right team. Then tell the teams which way they are going and as mentioned, ensure the correct team is inbounding the ball.
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 06:49pm
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The biggest thing is to make sure that the team that scored also inbounds the ball. Do not allow the other team to inbound it otherwise you will really be screwed up.

When this happens to me (it has happened to me occasionally), I whistle the play. Signal to the table to score it, making sure it gets added on the scoreboard to the right team. Then tell the teams which way they are going and as mentioned, ensure the correct team is inbounding the ball.
And that is the correct mechanic for a situation in which a player or team is confused and scores in the wrong goal. This is stated in the simplified and illustrated book. However, for an accidental tip-in during which all the players know which way they should be attacking, the official should NOT stopped the game, unless the wrong team is now attempting the throw-in. In that case, you would call a delay of game warning.
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