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Old Thu Mar 30, 2006, 01:46am
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Cool Now you tell us.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
I'm talking about an NCAA POE on this one folks.

Just as was done for palming/carrying the ball this season. It did change the way it was called. This call was made MUCH more this season than in the past.
Well of course you would then be talking about the Men's game, because unless Candace Parker is playing in a game I do see many women playing near the rim.

Once again I do not see this as a major problem. It is one of those things that is not happening every game or every situation even at the college level. I do not see many situations where I think this is missed. Even the play that happen this past weekend it was very close. Unless we have a ring of light that shows how close this play is, this call will always be a tough call. I do not think officials are just ignoring this call; it is tough at full speed to know for sure. POEs should be for rules that are called very inconsistently and flat out wrong. I do not think this rule is called that inconsistently. When it does happen it is such a surprise and I do see anyone just flat out missing this call.

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Old Thu Mar 30, 2006, 02:29am
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Well of course you would then be talking about the Men's game, because unless Candace Parker is playing in a game I do [typo here ] see many women playing near the rim.

Once again I do not see this as a major problem. It is one of those things that is not happening every game or every situation even at the college level. I do not see many situations where I think this is missed. Even the play that happen this past weekend it was very close. Unless we have a ring of light that shows how close this play is, this call will always be a tough call. I do not think officials are just ignoring this call; it is tough at full speed to know for sure. POEs should be for rules that are called very inconsistently and flat out wrong. I do not think this rule is called that inconsistently. When it does happen it is such a surprise and I do see anyone just flat out missing this call.
Well, Rut, you express good opinions on basketball, but you just perceive this one differently than I do. I truly believe that this is one aspect of the game which is handled quite inconsistently by NCAA officials. It is afterall a judgment call, but I would like to see it given more scrutiny.
Therefore, I think that a POE here would better the game.

Out of curiosity, prior to last season did you feel that palming need a POE or did you believe that it was called consistently and wasn't missed the much?
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Old Thu Mar 30, 2006, 10:16am
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To be honest with you, I did not see palming called that much this year than in year's past. I know I called it when it took place and I called it this year the same way I did in the past. I think other officials might have decided to call it more. I did not have an opinion about it one way or another. It is one of those rules misunderstood like traveling. Every time the dribbler has the ball someone thinks there was a violation when there really was not.

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Old Thu Mar 30, 2006, 11:17am
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To be honest with you, I did not see palming called that much this year than in year's past. I know I called it when it took place and I called it this year the same way I did in the past. I think other officials might have decided to call it more. I did not have an opinion about it one way or another. It is one of those rules misunderstood like traveling. Every time the dribbler has the ball someone thinks there was a violation when there really was not.

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I think it was called significantly more at the NCAA level and was an easier call to make - "coach, that's a POE this year. you know that, correct?" In essence, the POE "status" raises the acceptability-level of this type of call. Think of what happens when you make a call that, by rule, is correct but just isn't called regularly.

In the eyes of the coach, players, fans, etc., your credibility is reduced based on the call you made that nobody else does. Ultimately, we are selling our credibility with every call we make. The higher our credibility, the better game we have.
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