Never had this happen?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I disagree completely with your philosophy.

It ain't our job to tell a coach what to do ever. It ain't our job to argue with 'em, convince 'em of anything, or try to talk 'em into anything. It also ain't our job to ever threaten a coach with a suspension or a possible job loss; saying something like that could come back and bite you in the butt later on big time. You've already got one extremely pissed-off coach. If you now try to threaten or lecture him, you're only gonna make her madder and possibly escalate a bad situation into a worse one.

Just react to what's going on and say as little as possible. Tell the coach that he's got one minute to put her team on the floor and get the timer to start the clock. If the minute runs down and she's not ready to go, forfeit the game. Then you just write it up as completely as possible and hand it into their league administration or whover handles these cases. It's their job to decide what happens next, not our's.

Jmo.

I with you on this one JR.

[tonyp]

I had a similar situation in a 6th grade game. First quarter, visiting coach screaming. I go over to find out what's wrong. He demands a new clock operator. I ask again what's wrong. Coach scream unitelligably about the clock operator. At this point the other coach jumps up and demands that he show respect. The gym direcotr comes over so I leave it to him. Turns out the team gets up and leaves.

Unfortuantely I had another game to do so I had to hang out.

[jeffpea]

tonyp - yours is a good example of an official who tries to find out what the problem is and attempt to fix/address it, if possible. We can't be "all things to all people" and resolve every conflict, but we certainly have to find out what is going on. Clearly the coach didn't like the alternatives and he made the decision to walk out with his team. Not much you can do about that except be confident in the fact that you tried to resonably resolve the issue.....much better than using some smart-aleck answer to his initial complaint.......well done!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GFS-1

I was ask to Ref a 5th Grade Tounament Game. One of the Coaches during the
game is yelling at me "I've got 3 girls crying and there's no foul" My responce
was "Since when is crying a foul". With about 5min to go before halftime I called
a Technical Foul on that Coaches player for throwing a elbow. After the foul
shots were taken she wanted a time out. Thought it would be best to give her
a Time Out to settle her team down. They broke the huddle and the whole team
went and sat on the beach, the Coach called me over to say "Were done here"
"We Quit" I said are you sure you want to do this in front of all these fans.
She said yes. Wow I just shook my head in disbeleaf. I would be surprised come
Monday evening if she is still the head Coach of that program. And I'am sure I'll
be talking to the OHSAA about this one.
Any suggestions?

Nice new look to the Forum
GFS-1

First of all this is a 5th grade game I would not worry about it. Coaches at this level are there for a reason. If they understood how to coach or had any coaching ability or basketball background, they would be working somewhere else.

What would the OHSAA have to do with this at all if you do not mind me asking? Is this not a "high school association?"

Peace

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

First of all this is a 5th grade game I would not worry about it. Coaches at this level are there for a reason. If they understood how to coach or had any coaching ability or basketball background, they would be working somewhere else.
Peace

What's the difference between saying this and saying, "First of all this is a 5th grade game I would not worry about it. Officials at this level are there for a reason. If they understood how to officiate or had any officiating ability or basketball background, they would be working somewhere else.

No need to be condescending.

What the coach was saying about her players "crying" was clearly that the official was not calling fouls on contact that was severe enough to make them cry.

Had you previously officiated in this league's regular season? Usually sub-HS officials allow less contact than HS leagues, and you were almost certainly allowing more contact than she believed to be normal. This may have been more her perception than reality, but her subsequent actions indicate she felt strongly about it.

To defuse the situation, you might have explained why the contact was not a foul, or you might have ignored the coach as others have suggested, but instead you chose to be antagonistic by making a wisecrack. This contributed to the coach's perception that you were targeting her team.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by GFS-1

I was ask to Ref a 5th Grade Tounament Game. One of the Coaches during the
game is yelling at me "I've got 3 girls crying and there's no foul" My responce
was "Since when is crying a foul". GFS-1

I do not understand what any official hopes to accomplish by making "smart a$$" remarks to coaches (i.e "since when is crying a foul?"). It certainly doesn't resolve the situation - the coach is mad at the perceived lack of calls - and now you're making him more angry by dismissing his complaint with a poor attempt at humor.

Find out what his concern is, address it (if needed), and move on. The goal is to reduce his level of frustration/anger - not increase it.