Ref Signal - #2

[AZ_REF]

It seems to be a confrence thing. The guys from the ACC do it. Also the SEC and a few others. The new trail always signals a two in front of him on a field goal. Out west I've never seen it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AZ_REF

It seems to be a confrence thing. The guys from the ACC do it. Also the SEC and a few others. The new trail always signals a two in front of him on a field goal. Out west I've never seen it.

Are you sure he's not getting ready to begin the 5-second count, and then signalling the shot clock (and game clock in the last minute of the game) to start?

[AZ_REF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Are you sure he's not getting ready to begin the 5-second count, and then signalling the shot clock (and game clock in the last minute of the game) to start?

Yup, they do it right as the ball goes through the hoop. Their arm goes straight out w/ two fingers extended.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Are you sure he's not getting ready to begin the 5-second count, and then signalling the shot clock (and game clock in the last minute of the game) to start?

No, Bob, that's not it. I know what he's talking about, although I don't think it's a conference thing. It's more like an indication that possession has officially changed and we're going "that way" now. I think it's probably a long lost leftover mechanic. It just looks silly to me.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

No, Bob, that's not it. I know what he's talking about, although I don't think it's a conference thing. It's more like an indication that possession has officially changed and we're going "that way" now. I think it's probably a long lost leftover mechanic. It just looks silly to me.

I remember when I started that the old trail/new lead had to signal the baskets to the scorers table. Talk about stupid mechanics....

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I remember when I started that the old trail/new lead had to signal the baskets to the scorers table. Talk about stupid mechanics....

this is still the mechanic in FIBA. Funny, but I've never thought of it as being stupid. Why do you say that it is?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

this is still the mechanic in FIBA. Funny, but I've never thought of it as being stupid. Why do you say that it is?

Would the players, fans, coaches and the table know that a basket has been scored and we're going the other way if you didn't signal?

Of course they would. That's why it's stupid.

And no, it's not an ACC thing.

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Would the players, fans, coaches and the table know that a basket has been scored and we're going the other way if you didn't signal?

Of course they would. That's why it's stupid.

And no, it's not an ACC thing.

Yeah, I see your point. But I figure there is no harm in doing the signal - although I wouldn't be surprised if FIBA changes this in the 2008 rule changes.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I remember when I started that the old trail/new lead had to signal the baskets to the scorers table. Talk about stupid mechanics....

My first game back after a 26 year layoff I signaled the '2' to the table, in the 1st half. That's the way it was in pre-zebra shirt days.

[Ed Hickland]

Hey, I'm lost...this is not football.

Just reading about the mechanic where the trail official appears to signal the opposite direction following a basket.

Back 33 years ago when I started that was a standard mechanic. Signal two fingers for a 2-pointer, 1 for a single free throw. Apparently, it is not done that way anymore and it did seem redundant.

[bigdogrunnin]

NCAA-W - Maryland v. North Carolina (Sunday night I believe), all three officials did this after every made basket, and I have seen it 3-4 other times this season too. It is not a mechanic I can find in the book, and it is certainly not something that has been covered at camps the past couple years . . . so my assumption would be that it is something held over from years past. Just my take.

[biz]

It's tough to say that certain mechanics are conference based when so many D1 guys are working multiple conferences.

I see older, established refs make this "signal" all the time. Tim Higgins and Jim Burr use it every time they are the new Trail. I haven't noticed other guys using it, but I'm sure there are plenty.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by biz

It's tough to say that certain mechanics are conference based when so many D1 guys are working multiple conferences.

I see older, established refs make this "signal" all the time. Tim Higgins and Jim Burr use it every time they are the new Trail. I haven't noticed other guys using it, but I'm sure there are plenty.

I saw Donnee Gray use it this past weekend. I notice some NBA do it from time-to-time, usually after a made basket that involved some contact.

[deecee]

it now and then if something happens and a player wants to argue a block/charge no call or contact just to remind him that play is going the other way.

[refTN]

I use it for the same reason even on plays where there is a good amount of contact an the ball doesn't go in.