Shot from out of bounds on inbound pass

hooper · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 08:41pm

I had a player ask me this the other day.

When inbounding the ball, can you legally just shoot the ball without someone on the court touching it first? I thought "No, because the clock doesn't start until the ball is touched by the pass receiver inbounds."

However, there's a running clock in this league, so the clock continues to run even when a ball is taken out of bounds. My guess is still that you must pass the ball to a player inbounds and then she can shoot, right?

mick · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 08:50pm

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Originally posted by hooper
I had a player ask me this the other day.

When inbounding the ball, can you legally just shoot the ball without someone on the court touching it first? I thought "No, because the clock doesn't start until the ball is touched by the pass receiver inbounds."

However, there's a running clock in this league, so the clock continues to run even when a ball is taken out of bounds. My guess is still that you must pass the ball to a player inbounds and then she can shoot, right?

9-2-7 Throw-in Provisions : Art. 7 - "A player shall not throw the ball so it enters the basket before it touches or is touched by another player."

hooper · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 08:51pm

Thanks Mick! You're great!

So, technically, she could throw the ball off another player's head and it could ricochet into the basket and that would count. (Not that there's any great likelihood of this happening.)

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 08:56pm

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Originally posted by hooper
I had a player ask me this the other day.

When inbounding the ball, can you legally just shoot the ball without someone on the court touching it first? I thought "No, because the clock doesn't start until the ball is touched by the pass receiver inbounds."

However, there's a running clock in this league, so the clock continues to run even when a ball is taken out of bounds. My guess is still that you must pass the ball to a player inbounds and then she can shoot, right?

The clock isn't relevant here. People score all the time with the clock stopped. It's a throwin violation, however, as Mick points out so briefly.

Back In The Saddle · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 08:58pm

Hooper, she could also throw up an alley-oop, but if it goes into the basket untouched, it's a violation. May not happen so often in girls ball, but sometimes in men's league.

mick · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 09:02pm

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
.... as Mick points out so briefly.

No, no!
That's should be succinctly.

Jurassic Referee · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 09:23pm

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Originally posted by mick

Quote:

Originally posted by Snaqwells
.... as Mick points out so briefly.

No, no!
That's should be succinctly.

Uh......

Nope, not gonna say it.....

mick · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Feb 08, 2006, 09:32pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Quote:

Originally posted by mick

Quote:

Originally posted by Snaqwells
.... as Mick points out so briefly.

No, no!
That's should be succinctly.

Uh......

Nope, not gonna say it.....

...And, I thank you kindly.

mick

BrentD22 · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 11:50am

What if player A1 throws the ball toward the basket and it's over the cylindar and player A2 dunks it or tips it in. Is this a valid play?

All_Heart · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 12:02pm

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Originally posted by BrentD22
What if player A1 throws the ball toward the basket and it's over the cylindar and player A2 dunks it or tips it in. Is this a valid play?

Basket Interference!

rbmartin · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 04:24pm

How can you interfere on a ball that has not met the legal definition of a shot? If that were true, if a defensive player touched it on it's downward arc, it would goaltending. I don't think so(but i'm not an expert either).

bob jenkins · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 04:25pm

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Originally posted by rbmartin
How can you interfere on a ball that has not met the legal definition of a shot? If that were true, if a defensive player touched it on it's downward arc, it would goaltending. I don't think so(but i'm not an expert either).

A "try" is not needed to have BI. A "try" is needed to have GT.

Jurassic Referee · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 05:02pm

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Originally posted by rbmartin
How can you interfere on a ball that has not met the legal definition of a shot? If that were true, if a defensive player touched it on it's downward arc, it would goaltending. I don't think so(but i'm not an expert either).

Apparently it must be true. It's in the rules book.

See NFHS case book play 9.11.2SitC. It's the exact play. The NCAA rule is the same.

chayce · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 06:05pm

Also in NCAA:

A1 has a throw in from designated spot one step above the endline on the sideline in front court and passes the ball over the rim to A2 standing in the same position on the opposite side of the court. B1 makes contact with the ball above the cylinder. Basket interference, basket is good!!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #15 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 23, 2006, 07:02pm

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Originally posted by hooper
Thanks Mick! You're great!

So, technically, she could throw the ball off another player's head and it could ricochet into the basket and that would count. (Not that there's any great likelihood of this happening.)

Not only is Mick great, but I bet his wife thinks he is a real sweetie too. ;-)

MTD, Sr.