parents!!!!!

[ChrisSportsFan]

I wonder if there are any referees who are Quakers????
If so, I've never met one.
Could he work games with his hat on?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
I wonder if there are any referees who are Quakers????
If so, I've never met one.
Could he work games with his hat on?

I'm quite certain there are. Although, I don't know if she works with a hat.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
I wonder if there are any referees who are Quakers????
If so, I've never met one.
Could he work games with his hat on?

I am certain there are Penn grads who are referees.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I'm quite certain there are. Although, I don't know if she works with a hat.

Nope, no hats. And she doesn't call people thee or thou, either. She is still struggling to figure out how to handle the Star Spangled Banner thing. The reason I know this is because she's talked to me about it quite a bit.

[PS2Man]

Originally posted by rainmaker


Nope, no hats. And she doesn't call people thee or thou, either. She is still struggling to figure out how to handle the Star Spangled Banner thing. The reason I know this is because she's talked to me about it quite a bit.

What does the Star Spangled Banner have to do with being a Quaker? I am sure you know what you are talking about, I just have no idea what that means. If you could please fill me in on what you meant.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Mark, isn't there some similar ritual (besides circumcision) in the Jewish tradition? Why would the earliest Christians, who were exclusively Jewish, use baptism as a symbol of faith if it weren't found somewhere in their own history? Did Christians appropriate baptism from "pagan" religions of the day? It seems more likely to me that they were familiar with baptism from their own religious backgrounds -- namely Judaism.

Uh, no.

BTW - about two years ago I was working a game with Juulie and commented on the odds of a Quaker woman working a game with a Jewish man. She said the odds weren't that huge. I then asked her what the odds would be if I knew a joke about Jews and Quakers. She said "no way". I then told her the joke.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Uh, no.

BTW - about two years ago I was working a game with Juulie and commented on the odds of a Quaker woman working a game with a Jewish man. She said the odds weren't that huge. I then asked her what the odds would be if I knew a joke about Jews and Quakers. She said "no way". I then told her the joke.

Jesus, a Jew and a Quaker are playing golf...

[mplagrow]

Funny how the baseball thread always has an off-topic disclaimer. Of course, I don't think anyone planned this mass digression. Oh, and good Catholic/Lutheran anecdote, Chuck! Ain't it the truth!

[dblref]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Hey, I have a Dick's near me!

Me too, he works in the office next to me.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally posted by mplagrow
Funny how the baseball thread always has an off-topic disclaimer. Of course, I don't think anyone planned this mass digression. Oh, and good Catholic/Lutheran anecdote, Chuck! Ain't it the truth!

This thread has been slimed.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Uh, no.

Guess I've got some research to do, then. . .

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Guess I've got some research to do, then. . .

I'm wondering about John the Baptist, who was a Jew and, well, a Baptist. In that time there were many Jews who were baptising. But perhaps that tradition hasn't carried through time, especially since Christians picked it up.

Can one of the moderators move this over into the general thread, so we don't have to feel guilty?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by rainmaker

I'm wondering about John the Baptist, who was a Jew and, well, a Baptist. In that time there were many Jews who were baptising. But perhaps that tradition hasn't carried through time, especially since Christians picked it up.

Can one of the moderators move this over into the general thread, so we don't have to feel guilty?

I am not Jewish and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night so take this with a grain of salt (kosher salt please)...

Being baptised is like the initiation to the club. There is no initiation to Club Jewish, AFAIK all you need to do is be born to a woman who is already Jewish...and maybe a little ceremony if you're of the male pursuasion...(cringe).

As for so-called "converting" to Judaism, who knows how that works but AFAIK there is no water involved.

[ChuckElias]

Well, I emailed Mark about this, b/c I felt it was too far afield even for an already off-topic thread, but since others are keeping it alive, here's just one entry I found online under "Jewish baptism". It's from MSN's Encarta, so I don't think that they have any ecumenical ax to grind:

Jewish law provided for the use of water in ritual cleansing (see Leviticus 11:25, 40; 15:5-7); and Elisha commanded the Syrian commander Naaman to dip himself in the Jordan River to be cleansed of leprosy (see 2 Kings 5). Well before the 1st century ad, converts to Judaism were required to bathe (or baptize) themselves as a sign of entering the covenant (tebilath gerim). Some of the later prophets envisaged that Jewish exiles returning home would cross the Jordan and be sprinkled with its water to cleanse them of sins prior to the establishment of the kingdom of God (see Ezekiel 36:25).

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Well, I emailed Mark about this, b/c I felt it was too far afield even for an already off-topic thread, but since others are keeping it alive, here's just one entry I found online under "Jewish baptism". It's from MSN's Encarta, so I don't think that they have any ecumenical ax to grind:

OK, so maybe for converts there's a historical conection but I'm 99% positive no such connection exists today (I know that's not your point). But someone born into the religion does not go through the same initiation ie no cleansing required.