Block, charge or blarge ?

Man in Grey · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 08:26pm

http://www.basketballscheidsrechter....ies/video1.avi

What do you guys think?

Stan · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 08:37pm

Block

JugglingReferee · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 08:39pm

Block.

Back In The Saddle · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 09:05pm

Block, but only just.

Hard · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 09:16pm

I've got a charge; but only by using freeze frame. Defense has both feet touching floor and torso facing opponent before contact. No time or distance factor. Pretty hard to fault either call.

CaptStevenM · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 09:42pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hard
I've got a charge; but only by using freeze frame. Defense has both feet touching floor and torso facing opponent before contact. No time or distance factor. Pretty hard to fault either call.

I got a charge also. The offensive player ducks his shoulder and comes up into the defender. But I could see it being called a block also

Back In The Saddle · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 10:23pm

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Originally posted by Hard
I've got a charge; but only by using freeze frame. Defense has both feet touching floor and torso facing opponent before contact. No time or distance factor. Pretty hard to fault either call.

I looked at it in slo-mo and at full speed. You're right, both feet are on the floor, but he is in the middle of the motion of stepping forward. Even though his feet are on the floor, his torso and hips are way behind his feet and are still moving forward, toward his opponent, at the time of contact.

canuckrefguy · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 12, 2005, 10:39pm

Block.

Defender arrived a hair late. Good job of reffing the defense.

Although - you could call charge on that play 1,000 times and never take any heat for it.

CaptStevenM · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 12:08am

What do you guys think about this one. From the reactions it looks like the call was an PC.

http://www.basketballscheidsrechter....ies/video2.avi

cford · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 12:22am

Look at the C in the first video. He starts walking in opposite direction.

I agree with him I think it should be a PC but it's a bang bang play.

The second one was a PC. Good call.

Back In The Saddle · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 12:25am

Yep, second one is a clear charge.

CaptStevenM · #12 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 12:57am

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Originally posted by cford
Look at the C in the first video. He starts walking in opposite direction. I agree with him I think it should be a PC but it's a bang bang play.

The second one was a PC. Good call.

In the first video the C and the T both start walking in the opposite direction.

Camron Rust · #13 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 02:09am

Video 1: Block. Body still moving forward...very close though.

Video 2: Charge. Not even close.

canuckrefguy · #14 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 03:16am

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Originally posted by CaptStevenM

Quote:

Originally posted by cford
Look at the C in the first video. He starts walking in opposite direction. I agree with him I think it should be a PC but it's a bang bang play.

The second one was a PC. Good call.

In the first video the C and the T both start walking in the opposite direction.

Exactly why it's L's call - T and C do not have the best look at the WHOLE play - nor the ability to accurately ref the defender in question (the secondary defender).

NICK · #15 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 13, 2005, 04:01am

What I saw:
Video 1- Charging foul, Lead referee calls foul but does not signal if foul is offensive or defensive. Center and Trail also unsure about the call and just hanging around waiting for lead to signal either way.
Video 2- again charging foul as defense had LGP and was moving laterally to take charge