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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:09am
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On the first throw of a 1 and 1, the ball lodges between the rim and the backboard. Go with the arrow or defense gets the ball for a throw-in?
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 11:18am
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AP arrow.

Why would you consider giving the defense the ball?
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 07:28pm
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lodged ball

The crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower. You are right. I found it. Rule 6 sec.4, art.3d. Thanks
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:21pm
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Interesting! But what if the ball lodges on the 1st of 2 free throws? Is it a violation or what else could it be?
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:30pm
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Interesting! But what if the ball lodges on the 1st of 2 free throws? Is it a violation or what else could it be?
It'd be...a missed free throw.
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 08:32pm
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Re: lodged ball

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T...he crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower...
What violation would you call??
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 09:02pm
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Re: Re: lodged ball

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T...he crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower...
What violation would you call??
Illegal use of the hand cart?
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:29pm
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Had someone ask me this on my site the other day (http://www.geocities.com/oz_referee now there is a shameless plug )

Answer is the same for FIBA - if it happens on the first free throw, it counts as a miss - if on the second, go to the arrow.

BUT....personally I reckon you deserve some sort of an award if this happens on free throws. The only time I have ever seen a ball lodged on the ring has been from a 45 degree angle to the backboard - how on earth could it happen from dead in front?????
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2005, 10:47pm
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BUT....personally I reckon you deserve some sort of an award if this happens on free throws. The only time I have ever seen a ball lodged on the ring has been from a 45 degree angle to the backboard - how on earth could it happen from dead in front?????
I have seen "wedgies" on free throws every once in a great while. But I have also seen something even more rare - a free throw come to rest on the flange. I've seen it only once and it was incredibly weird.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 02:03am
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For completeness, remember that

if the ball lodges on a throw-in, it IS I violation, unless my mind deceiveth me yet again, a violation of the free throw . . .
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 02:07am
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Re: For completeness, remember that

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if the ball lodges on a throw-in, it IS I violation, unless my mind deceiveth me yet again, a violation of the free throw . . .
rule book reference?
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 02:43am
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NF 9-2-8

The thrower shall not...Throw the ball so it lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange before it touches or is touched by another player.

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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 02:56am
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NF 9-2-8

The thrower shall not...Throw the ball so it lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange before it touches or is touched by another player.

...and what's the penalty? That's my point. The rule book tells how to handle this situation.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 09:12am
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9-2-8 refers to violations on a throw-in, not a free throw.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2005, 10:32am
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Yes

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Originally posted by FrankHtown
9-2-8 refers to violations on a throw-in, not a free throw.
Exactly.
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