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bonehead Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:09am

On the first throw of a 1 and 1, the ball lodges between the rim and the backboard. Go with the arrow or defense gets the ball for a throw-in?

BktBallRef Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:18am

AP arrow.

Why would you consider giving the defense the ball?

bonehead Sun Feb 20, 2005 07:28pm

lodged ball
 
The crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower. You are right. I found it. Rule 6 sec.4, art.3d. Thanks

Refest Sun Feb 20, 2005 08:21pm

Interesting! But what if the ball lodges on the 1st of 2 free throws? Is it a violation or what else could it be?

biglaz Sun Feb 20, 2005 08:30pm

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Originally posted by Refest
Interesting! But what if the ball lodges on the 1st of 2 free throws? Is it a violation or what else could it be?
It'd be...a missed free throw.

ref18 Sun Feb 20, 2005 08:32pm

Re: lodged ball
 
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Originally posted by bonehead
T...he crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower...
What violation would you call??

tjones1 Sun Feb 20, 2005 09:02pm

Re: Re: lodged ball
 
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Originally posted by ref18
Quote:

Originally posted by bonehead
T...he crew that had this happen shot it over. That was not right. Other options were AP or a violation by the free thrower...
What violation would you call??

Illegal use of the hand cart? ;) :D

Oz Referee Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:29pm

Had someone ask me this on my site the other day (http://www.geocities.com/oz_referee now there is a shameless plug :D)

Answer is the same for FIBA - if it happens on the first free throw, it counts as a miss - if on the second, go to the arrow.

BUT....personally I reckon you deserve some sort of an award if this happens on free throws. The only time I have ever seen a ball lodged on the ring has been from a 45 degree angle to the backboard - how on earth could it happen from dead in front?????

Mark Padgett Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:47pm

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Originally posted by Oz Referee
BUT....personally I reckon you deserve some sort of an award if this happens on free throws. The only time I have ever seen a ball lodged on the ring has been from a 45 degree angle to the backboard - how on earth could it happen from dead in front?????
I have seen "wedgies" on free throws every once in a great while. But I have also seen something even more rare - a free throw come to rest on the flange. I've seen it only once and it was incredibly weird.

assignmentmaker Mon Feb 21, 2005 02:03am

For completeness, remember that
 
if the ball lodges on a throw-in, it IS I violation, unless my mind deceiveth me yet again, a violation of the free throw . . .

rainmaker Mon Feb 21, 2005 02:07am

Re: For completeness, remember that
 
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Originally posted by assignmentmaker
if the ball lodges on a throw-in, it IS I violation, unless my mind deceiveth me yet again, a violation of the free throw . . .
rule book reference?

rabbit Mon Feb 21, 2005 02:43am

NF 9-2-8

The thrower shall not...Throw the ball so it lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange before it touches or is touched by another player.


rainmaker Mon Feb 21, 2005 02:56am

Quote:

Originally posted by rabbit
NF 9-2-8

The thrower shall not...Throw the ball so it lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange before it touches or is touched by another player.


...and what's the penalty? That's my point. The rule book tells how to handle this situation.

FrankHtown Mon Feb 21, 2005 09:12am

9-2-8 refers to violations on a throw-in, not a free throw.

assignmentmaker Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:32am

Yes
 
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Originally posted by FrankHtown
9-2-8 refers to violations on a throw-in, not a free throw.
Exactly.


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