NCAA - signals/mechanics

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Zoochy: What's wrong with a shoulder height count? That's the correct height in IAABO mechanics (signals). Not sure about NFHS.

By "just" I assume the original poster means they are NOT starting/chopping the clock.

As for not counting the backcourt, if there is no pressure I don't have a visible count. I keep one mentally in case something odd happens, but I don't feel the need to swing my arm 4-5 times when there is a near 100% certainty the ball is crossing well before a violation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

By "just" I assume the original poster means they are NOT starting/chopping the clock.

Thanks MechanicGuy. I reread the post and now it makes more sense. Sorry Zoochy.

While I realize that timekeepers, in most circumstances, are probably watching the ball and not the administering official's "chop" on almost all throwins, for almost all officials it's an "automatic" signal, embedded deeply in our DNA over many years of experience. Don't understand why an official would avoid doing it?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

By "just" I assume the original poster means they are NOT starting/chopping the clock.

As for not counting the backcourt, if there is no pressure I don't have a visible count. I keep one mentally in case something odd happens, but I don't feel the need to swing my arm 4-5 times when there is a near 100% certainty the ball is crossing well before a violation.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks MechanicGuy. I reread the post and now it makes more sense. Sorry Zoochy.

While I realize that timekeepers, in most circumstances, are probably watching the ball and not the administering official's "chop" on almost all throwins, for almost all officials it's an "automatic" signal, embedded deeply in our DNA over many years of experience. Don't understand why an official would avoid doing it?

The "chop" is done with the same hand that does the count, but instead of a chopping motion, a fist is formed just above shoulder level while flexing the bicep.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Raymond

The "chop" is done with the same hand that does the count, but instead of a chopping motion, a fist is formed just above shoulder level while flexing the bicep.

This is because many college officials are using precision timing and are using the off-hand to start the clock. Not something we are regularly to be concerned with at the HS level - though the first time you do use this device, figuring out how to chop, count AND start the clock is a bit of an awkward adventure lol

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

This is because many college officials are using precision timing and are using the off-hand to start the clock. Not something we are regularly to be concerned with at the HS level - though the first time you do use this device, figuring out how to chop, count AND start the clock is a bit of an awkward adventure lol

The fist chop is being used even by officials who do put an open hand up.

My highest level college supervisor hated it, so I never used that mechanic

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