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As for not counting the backcourt, if there is no pressure I don't have a visible count. I keep one mentally in case something odd happens, but I don't feel the need to swing my arm 4-5 times when there is a near 100% certainty the ball is crossing well before a violation. |
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While I realize that timekeepers, in most circumstances, are probably watching the ball and not the administering official's "chop" on almost all throwins, for almost all officials it's an "automatic" signal, embedded deeply in our DNA over many years of experience. Don't understand why an official would avoid doing it?
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This is because many college officials are using precision timing and are using the off-hand to start the clock. Not something we are regularly to be concerned with at the HS level - though the first time you do use this device, figuring out how to chop, count AND start the clock is a bit of an awkward adventure lol
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The count is not the issue. It is the lack of the chop to start the clock. They just drop the arm
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Even if they don't bend the elbow and somehow allow gravity to rotate the entire straight arm down 180 degrees from the shoulder, that has to be considered some type of chop. Right? How can one's hand go from fully up in the air to down near one's hip without something that looks like some type of a chop? As the trail, after a final free throw, it the ball misses and is rebounded, I swiftly drop my arm down, bending it at my elbow, and then swiftly, and with emphasis, unbend my elbow, a "fast chop". As the trail, after a final free throw, it the ball goes in I just slowly drop my arm straight down, bending it at my elbow, but then have to slowly, with no emphasis, unbend my elbow, which is kind of a "slow chop". Is that what you're talking about, not the actual movement itself, but the speed and emphasis of the movement? Note: Back in ancient times, on a made free throw, we had to drop our arm and make a "one point" signal. Nevermore.
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About ten to fifteen years ago, I was the timekeeper for a middle school game featuring a crew that was "too lazy" to chop. The R complained when I started the clock "early" on a late throw-in (I thought it was touched, he didn't.)
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Unless it's in the last ten seconds of a period, it's impossible to start the clock "early" during a JH game.
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