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Old Wed Oct 05, 2022, 12:18pm
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For those without a scorecard:

1970-71: Hit.
1981: Release.
1993: Hit.
1996-97: Release.
1997-98: Hit.
2014-15: Release.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: What was going on before 1970? Hit the peach basket?

My library starts with the 1971-72 school year but my playing career started in seventh grade (1963-64) and the NBC Rules were on the "hit" and the first change to the Rules was not the 1970-71 school year. The first change from "hit" to "release" was made for the 1980-81 school year by both the NFHS and NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committees.

Since the 1980-81 school year the NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committee has kept the Rule as on the "release", while the NFHS has been on a (Foucault, ) pendulum ever since.

As far as the women's college basketball rules are concerned: The NAGWS Basketball Rules were on the "hit" until the NCAA took over from the AIAW and formed its own Women's Basketball Rules Committee for the 1983-84 school year, and made the change from "hit" to "release" and has stayed the same as the Men's Basketball Rules ever since.

Interesting side note about the women's rules. The AIAW and the NCAA held competing national championships for the 1981-82 school year which the last AIAW Championship and was the first NCAA Championship, and the NCAA used the NAGWS Rules for 1982-83 Championship.

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Old Wed Oct 05, 2022, 01:29pm
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1970-71: Hit.
1981: Release.
1993: Hit.
1996-97: Release.
1997-98: Hit.
2014-15: Release.
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My library starts with the 1971-72 school year but my playing career started in seventh grade (1963-64) and the NBC Rules were on the "hit" and the first change to the Rules was not the 1970-71 school year. The first change from "hit" to "release" was made for the 1980-81 school year by both the NFHS and NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committees.
I didn't mean to imply that there was a "change" in 1970-71, I just meant that the NFHS was using "hit" in 1970-71. That's the furthest back that I could confirm.
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2022, 01:34pm
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My library starts with the 1971-72 school year but my playing career started in seventh grade (1963-64) and the NBC Rules were on the "hit" ... The first change from "hit" to "release" was made for the 1980-81 school year by both the NFHS and NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committees.
So are you saying that "hit" was used as far back as 1963-64 and didn't change to "release" until 1980-81?

I didn't start playing organized basketball until ninth grade (1966-67) and I honestly can't remember if we used "hit" or "release" back then.

Only thing that I do remember for sure it that when I started playing organized basketball, unlike Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., we didn't shoot at peach baskets.
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while the NFHS has been on a Foucault pendulum ever since.
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Was the change to "hit" in 1992-93, or 1993-94? My research only confirmed 1993.
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So are you saying that "hit" was used as far back as 1963-64 and didn't change to "release" until 1980-81? Yes.

I didn't start playing organized basketball until ninth grade (1966-67) and I honestly can't remember if we used "hit" or "release" back then.

Only thing that I do remember for sure it that when I started playing organized basketball, unlike Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., we didn't shoot at peach baskets.
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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Was the change to "hit" in 1992-93, or 1993-94? My research only confirmed 1993.
I do not know. I am no longer using a cane to walk but I still am not ready to climb into the "Attic" yet.

Billy:

See my answers above in GREEN.

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