NCAA Hanging On Rim Technical Foul ...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Did you know that even O’Connell himself disagrees with you?

He said as much to the Illinois HC after the game. He knows he kicked it.


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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ighting-illini


“Underwood said after the game the official told him the foul shouldn't have been called, and the coach wondered if there was a personal motivation to calling the foul.

"[O'Connell] told me he should never have called it," Underwood said. "Maybe it's personal, I don't know. To call it like that, when a kid has a head of steam going 100 mph? We all talk about health and safety of the student-athletes. Come on.”

I have no opinion on whether or not to call is right or wrong. But I do have an opinion on trusting coaches with second hand accounting of what officials supposedly told them. Especially when coaches use fanboy language about making it personal.

My personal experience is that coaches are less than 100% honest when relaying such information.

[JRutledge]

Who cares what Underwood said. I doubt that conversation even went that way or in that manner. I would not think it would be smart for an official at that level to interact with the coach in that way. I am not buying that at all.

Peace

[SC Official]

The only thing more insane than Underwood’s fanboy take is the fact that people on this forum genuinely believe that interaction with O’Connell happened.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Who cares what Underwood said. I doubt that conversation even went that way or in that manner. I would not think it would be smart for an official at that level to interact with the coach in that way. I am not buying that at all.

Peace

Originally Posted by SC Official

The only thing more insane than Underwood’s fanboy take is the fact that people on this forum genuinely believe that interaction with O’Connell happened.

I'm trying to figure out when this conversation would have taken place. If it's going to happen, it would be the next time O'Connell was in front of his bench. After that point everybody has moved on and we don't revisit plays with coaches, especially after a game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

The only thing more insane than Underwood’s fanboy take is the fact that people on this forum genuinely believe that interaction with O’Connell happened.

Originally Posted by Raymond

I'm trying to figure out when this conversation would have taken place. If it's going to happen, it would be the next time O'Connell was in front of his bench. After that point everybody has moved on and we don't revisit plays with coaches, especially after a game.

Exactly. And if he said something during the game, when would he have come to that epiphany?

I say this all the time, we do not know really when we miss most calls until we see the video. We might have a feeling, but we do not know how bad it looks or good it looks until we see the video.

Peace

[tnolan]

There was a similar play in my area this year that we've discussed back and forth. In a game that was already in hand, it was basically the same motion of the momentum swing through and 1 swing back without lift while another player was in close enough proximity to further allow the swing.
The lead had issued a technical and actually the Trail intercepted to discuss that there was a player near enough that it shouldn't be a technical.
The Lead stuck with the call.

The NCAA probably already has video examples somewhere on this of what should and should not be called a technical foul, but I know the NFHS doesn't and should definitely make it a POE this coming year WITH enough video examples that should pretty much cover most situations. Officials need to be able to comprehend between showboating, excess, etc... and momentum, player safety, etc...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tnolan

There was a similar play in my area this year that we've discussed back and forth. In a game that was already in hand, it was basically the same motion of the momentum swing through and 1 swing back without lift while another player was in close enough proximity to further allow the swing.
The lead had issued a technical and actually the Trail intercepted to discuss that there was a player near enough that it shouldn't be a technical.
The Lead stuck with the call.

The NCAA probably already has video examples somewhere on this of what should and should not be called a technical foul, but I know the NFHS doesn't and should definitely make it a POE this coming year WITH enough video examples that should pretty much cover most situations. Officials need to be able to comprehend between showboating, excess, etc... and momentum, player safety, etc...

It could be addressed, but this is the only call like this I have seen in some time anyway. So I doubt they need to make a big deal out of it if this remains the only call that was made and the NCAA feels this is nothing in the long run. But it could come up, I just do not think they will bother unless we have several more calls related to dunks.

Peace