Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047629)

O'Connell made the correct call. "Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during officials' jurisdiction when the player is not, in the official's judgement, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others" is a class B technical foul, according to Rule 10-4.1.e.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1047630)

Did you know that even O’Connell himself disagrees with you?

He said as much to the Illinois HC after the game. He knows he kicked it.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1047630)

Did you know that even O’Connell himself disagrees with you?

He said as much to the Illinois HC after the game. He knows he kicked it.


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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1047632)

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ighting-illini


“Underwood said after the game the official told him the foul shouldn't have been called, and the coach wondered if there was a personal motivation to calling the foul.

"[O'Connell] told me he should never have called it," Underwood said. "Maybe it's personal, I don't know. To call it like that, when a kid has a head of steam going 100 mph? We all talk about health and safety of the student-athletes. Come on.”

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1047637)

Who cares what Underwood said. I doubt that conversation even went that way or in that manner. I would not think it would be smart for an official at that level to interact with the coach in that way. I am not buying that at all.

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1047646)

The only thing more insane than Underwood’s fanboy take is the fact that people on this forum genuinely believe that interaction with O’Connell happened.

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1047646)

The only thing more insane than Underwood’s fanboy take is the fact that people on this forum genuinely believe that interaction with O’Connell happened.

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047647)

I'm trying to figure out when this conversation would have taken place. If it's going to happen, it would be the next time O'Connell was in front of his bench. After that point everybody has moved on and we don't revisit plays with coaches, especially after a game.

Originally Posted by tnolan (Post 1047650)

There was a similar play in my area this year that we've discussed back and forth. In a game that was already in hand, it was basically the same motion of the momentum swing through and 1 swing back without lift while another player was in close enough proximity to further allow the swing.
The lead had issued a technical and actually the Trail intercepted to discuss that there was a player near enough that it shouldn't be a technical.
The Lead stuck with the call.

The NCAA probably already has video examples somewhere on this of what should and should not be called a technical foul, but I know the NFHS doesn't and should definitely make it a POE this coming year WITH enough video examples that should pretty much cover most situations. Officials need to be able to comprehend between showboating, excess, etc... and momentum, player safety, etc...

Originally Posted by tnolan (Post 1047653)

I feel at the NFHS level at least, that it should be brought up for discussion between officials and coaches so that everyone is on the same page. And maybe that's just me having seen it a few times this year (both correctly and incorrectly penalized).

Also, not to hi-jack this thread but sort of on topic, this occurred during the Texas Tech/Notre Dame game:
(5:29 - 5:41 mark)

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This is definitely OBI, but in a live game I'm not sure if any official is going to be able to pick this out and discern between that and a normal two-handed dunk, depending on your angle. During the slow motion replay when this was live, it was much easier to tell.