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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:59am
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Goaltending ???

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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:20am
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Yes. It is really close, but it is on the way down.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:27am
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Backboard ???

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Yes. It is really close, but it is on the way down.
I think that I agree. Did the ball come off the backboard, or was it a direct shot?
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:30am
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Up Or Down ???

I saw three layup (hit backboard first) goaltends last week while observing my friends (this game was not officiated by my local guys, only the road team is from our local area. "Local guys" can only work state tournament games where neither team is from our local area, or both teams are from our local area).

Two I agreed with.

The third I was watching for contact and didn't see the goaltend. I asked the calling official (top notch guy) about it, specifically if the ball was going down. He replied that he wasn't sure, he just called it because the ball hit the backboard (the NCAA rule, even though he knew the NFHS difference). None of the offending team fans complained, because fans (and coaches) don't know the difference between the NCAA and NFHS rule.

Love the ignorant fan in the video yelling, "How can you see that from back there?", because it's the trail's call 99% of the time in a two person game.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:32am
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Backboard Nothing To Do With Goaltending ...

From my Most Misunderstood NFHS Basketball Rules list:

The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket. On most layups, the ball is going up immediately after it contacts the backboard, and in this situation it is legal for a defender to touch the ball if it is not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:36am
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Note the home team is called the "Noises",
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I think that I agree. Did the ball come off the backboard, or was it a direct shot?
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I saw three layup (hit backboard first) goaltends last week while observing my friends (this game was not officiated by my local guys). Two I agreed with.
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From my Most Misunderstood NFHS Basketball Rules list:


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I'd respond to the OP, but I don't want to interrupt the conversation.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:25am
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Noises ??? What Are Noises ???

Note the home team is called the "Noises", the only team in the country with that name. The school is located in the Moodus section of the town of East Haddam, CT.

Moodus Noises is the name given to an acoustic phenomenon that has plagued the citizens of the village of Moodus in the town of East Haddam for centuries. The Moodus Noises are strange rumblings, thunderings, and crashings that seem to originate somewhere around Mount Tom, a 300 foot tall hill of schist and granite near where the Salmon River (I kayak there all the time) and Moodus River meet. The noises come in clusters, occasionally in succession, often over a period of days, or months.

Native Americans called the area Machimoodus, which means “Place Of Bad Noises”. The area is now Machimoodus State Park. Settlers later shortened the name of the village to Moodus. The Wangunk tribe attributed the noises to a god named Hobbamock, who apparently was a restless, violent, and exceptionally noisy entity who controlled darkness, disease, and bad weather. A most treacherous and hideous being, Hobbamock lurks in the night-time shadows. Some people will not go out alone at night for fear of an encounter with this frightful fiend. He is the Native American bogeyman and the equal of the European devil. The medicine men tried to figure out the right combination of sacrifice and prayer to calm the angry god.

Connecticut is considered to be in a moderate seismic risk zone as defined by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Although people tend to think of New England as rock-steady country, it is actually a region of moderate earthquake activity. While often not associated with the typical West-Coast imagery that comes with reports of earthquake activity, Connecticut has a surprisingly under-appreciated history of seismic disturbances and geologists now recognize Moodus as one of the most active earthquake zones in New England. The hard granite and metamorphic rocks in Connecticut can transmit seismic waves (and transmit sounds) up to forty times more efficiently than the soft rock and sand in California.

It is currently thought that the Eastford Fault is the main fault that is responsible for the Moodus noises; it is mapped just north of Machimoodus State Park.

Note that there will be a quiz on this.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2022, 09:24pm
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Maybe I'm too late to reply but in this situation, I have a good block on the shot and a technical foul on the red coach for running onto the court to scream at the lead. I do agree the trail's mechanics are bad here. I wouldn't argue with his call in a conference with him, but if I'm trail, I'm not calling that, it needs to be more obvious in a downward trajectory.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2022, 09:40pm
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Whether it's goaltending or not, the coach 100% deserves a technical foul.

You cannot be 10 feet on the court arguing or lobbying for a call, ever. What you permit, you promote. Don't permit unprofessional behavior.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2022, 11:22pm
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The slow-walking directly into and through the line of fire after the horn is the cherry on top. The younger official still has his whistle in his mouth in the circle as the postgame confrontations begin ... GTFO! And do it in a route that takes you away from the benches.

In his defense, however, he's probably in a fog and trying to project confidence or a carefree attitude after he KNOWS his partner screwed the pooch and irrevocably altered the outcome.

Btw, I'm late to the party, but this was a clean block upon initial view, and on every subsequent replay. And from 45ish feet away ... it's nothing.
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