End of quarter - "All related activity"

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Altor

So, going back to my OQ, what I'm gathering is:

Nobody has a hard reference as to whether reporting the foul is "related activity." Most seem to think it isn't, which was my first instinct.

The rest I knew:
If it is part of 2Q: The FTs are shot before the intermission clock starts. 3Q starts with the AP arrow.

If it is part of 3Q: V-HC is additionally assessed and indirect TF and has to sit the rest of the game. The FTs are shot after the intermission clock ends. After the FTs, H is awarded a throw-in opposite the table as part of the penalty. The arrow does not change.

If you desire a case play or an NFHS annual interpretation ruling, you won’t find one. I haven’t seen such in 25 years.

However, if you look at the text of the rule, I believe that it is quite clear.

“…the quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed.”

So for a period to not end when the ball becomes dead following the period-ending horn, there must be a foul while a try is in flight and that foul must result in free throws. Since a PC foul does not, this exception does not apply and the quarter is over.

Additionally, the phrase “and all related activity” refers to the free throws, not the quarter, so if there aren’t any free throws, then there cannot be any related activity.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If you desire a case play or an NFHS annual interpretation ruling, you won’t find one. I haven’t seen such in 25 years.

However, if you look at the text of the rule, I believe that it is quite clear.

“…the quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed.”

So for a period to not end when the ball becomes dead following the period-ending horn, there must be a foul while a try is in flight and that foul must result in free throws. Since a PC foul does not, this exception does not apply and the quarter is over.

Additionally, the phrase “and all related activity” refers to the free throws, not the quarter, so if there aren’t any free throws, then there cannot be any related activity.

While I agree the OP should have the T be part of the third quarter, I think it's a slippery slope to put too much stock in the specific wording -- we've seen plenty of examples where the wording is sloppy and a literal reading results in nonsensical interpretations.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If you desire a case play or an NFHS annual interpretation ruling, you won’t find one. I haven’t seen such in 25 years.

However, if you look at the text of the rule, I believe that it is quite clear.

“…the quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed.”

So for a period to not end when the ball becomes dead following the period-ending horn, there must be a foul while a try is in flight and that foul must result in free throws. Since a PC foul does not, this exception does not apply and the quarter is over.

Additionally, the phrase “and all related activity” refers to the free throws, not the quarter, so if there aren’t any free throws, then there cannot be any related activity.

Why not edit the rulebook to reflect that? "The period does not end until all activity related to the foul has ended. This includes reporting the foul and administering the subsequent free throws. If no free throws are appointed, the period is immediately ended, and the intermission begins after the foul is reported to the official scorer." This would clear up some of the confusion in this thread for future games.