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Old Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:02pm
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I noticed immediately him putting the ball from his left hand to his right hand. I don't see how anybody could miss that.
Little Stevie Wonder could have made this call with his eyes closed.

Could it have been a travel/carry immediately before he switched hands, that ball sure seemed somewhat cupped (holding) in his left hand while his feet were moving?

Maybe it was a two person game, with the trail across the basketline on the other side of the court?
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Little Stevie Wonder could have made this call with his eyes closed.

Could it have been a travel/carry immediately before he switched hands, that ball sure seemed somewhat cupped (holding) in his left hand while his feet were moving?

Maybe it was a two person game, with the trail across the basketline on the other side of the court?
You didn't see it on a video. You had to double check to see if he had two hands on the ball at the same time. How did you not see him switching the ball from one hand to the other?

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Old Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:58pm
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You didn't see it on a video ... How did you not see him switching the ball from one hand to the other?
Did he touch the ball with two hands at the same time when the ball was behind his back? Sure, if you say so. You'll get no argument from me. I was unsure because I thought I spotted a few millimeters of separation space during a hand switching self "pass", or maybe it was an actual handoff. Maybe your monitor is better than my small ten year old monitor.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2021, 07:03pm
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Did he touch the ball with two hands at the same time when the ball was behind his back? Sure, if you say so. You'll get no argument from me. I was unsure because I thought I spotted a few millimeters of separation space during a hand switching self "pass", or maybe it was an actual handoff. Maybe your monitor is better than my small ten year old monitor.
What does it matter if he touched it with both hands at the same time or passed it from one hand to the other.

He had already dribbled and he OBVIOUSLY touched the ball with both hands prior to dribbling again. Why is touching it at the same time or separately relevant? Why do you bring stuff into the conversation that means nothing at all?

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Old Wed Dec 22, 2021, 08:10pm
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What does it matter if he touched it with both hands at the same time or passed it from one hand to the other.
It doesn't.

Here's my take:

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Carry (illegal dribble) due to holding the ball when he moved it from left hand to right hand without a dribble behind his back, and subsequently starting a second illegal dribble.
He held (cupped) the ball in this left hand, "self passed" behind his back, and then held (cupped) the ball in his right hand, after which he dribbled "again".

Other than calling it a carry, where am I wrong?
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