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Old Wed Dec 22, 2021, 08:17pm
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"The kid, when going behind his back, almost puts two hands on the ball at the same time (had to double check)."

What are you double checking and why? Your statement would lead a new, unknowing official to think it makes a difference whether it was touched by both hands at the same time or separately?

This is you causing unnecessary confusion.


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Old Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:09am
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Weird Wild Stuff (Johnny Carson) ...

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"The kid, when going behind his back, almost puts two hands on the ball at the same time (had to double check)."
Context is important. My subsequent statement was:

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Lots of weird stuff here.
Had the player put two hands on the ball at the same time, which I don't believe that he did (by millimeters), that would have been an additional article violation worthy of Durant's scorn, and might have been the first violation in this play depending on how one viewed the cupping with the left hand with accompanying foot movement.

4-15-4-C: The dribble ends when: The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.

Like Johnny Carson said, "Weird wild stuff".
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:32am
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The dribble is illegal because it was touched by both hands in between dribbles.
Agree. But it was illegal for, at least, one other reason, with one reason not (barely) being for simultaneously touching the ball with both hands.

Some could have viewed the cupping (holding) while moving his feet as a travel (carry), however this was quite subtle and there was a more obvious violation.

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“slight of hand”
Would it be easier to state which rule, section, and article this young ball handler didn't violate?

Again, thanks crosscountry55 for this very educational and interesting video.
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