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Old Sat Jun 26, 2021, 06:47am
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I also find it odd that the NBA only considers the ball live when the clock is running. I guess that points scored from free throws are dead ball points?
Actually the NBA uses the terms live and alive. On a free throw, the ball is live when at the disposal of the FT shooter and it becomes alive when the FT is released.
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Old Sat Jun 26, 2021, 08:47am
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Such a play only works with the clock not running, or in NBA parlance, when the ball isn't ''live.'' ... But the clock was not running. This was not a live ball.
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Actually the NBA uses the terms live and alive. On a free throw, the ball is live when at the disposal of the FT shooter and it becomes alive when the FT is released.
Makes it even more silly. Nevertheless, to paraphrase JRutledge, different level, different language.

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Old Sat Jun 26, 2021, 09:23am
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Makes it even more silly. Nevertheless, to paraphrase JRutledge, different level, different language.

I don't know why that makes it silly. I actually like the fact that they have a separate term for that difference in the ball's status.

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Old Sat Jun 26, 2021, 09:35am
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I actually like the fact that they have a separate term for that difference in the ball's status.
NFHS actually had something (not exactly) similar back in ancient times.

Change of status.

80% of a five second, or ten second count.

After four of a five second count (throwin, closely guarded), no timeout request is granted.

After eight of a ten second count (backcourt, free throw), no timeout request is granted.

I was pleased when the change of status rule was deleted.

Who wants to figure out mathematical percentages in the middle of a basketball game, especially since most officials don't carry a slide rule while officiating? Even back then, many officials didn't wear a belt to loop their slide rule leather (or leatherette) carrying case on.

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Old Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:01am
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They actually use the word ALIVE in their casebook? Not surprised at all!! What a bunch of clowns. The word is LIVE … the ball never is and never will be ALIVE!
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I don't know why that makes it silly.
I believe that it's silly (just silly, not the end of the world, see Stillblind quote above) to call an inanimate object (a ball) "alive", but somehow I don't find it silly to call such an inanimate object "live".

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Old Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:11am
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Actually the NBA uses the terms live and alive. On a free throw, the ball is live when at the disposal of the FT shooter and it becomes alive when the FT is released.
Note to technical writers: Don't follow NBA's example by having a difference in technical terms depend on the presence or absence of a single vowel, especially if you ever expect oral communication to be used by those making use of them.
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Old Sun Jun 27, 2021, 01:09pm
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Note to technical writers: Don't follow NBA's example by having a difference in technical terms depend on the presence or absence of a single vowel, especially if you ever expect oral communication to be used by those making use of them.
Especially a single vowel that is also a commonly used article.

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