Fun With Switching …

[BillyMac]

IAABO Make The Call Video

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Is this contact properly ruled a player control foul? Does the ruling official use proper site of violation signaling? Does the ruling official get to the foul reporting area? Do the officials switch properly after the foul?

Three choices: This is a player control foul. This is a blocking foul. This is incidental contact and should not have been ruled a foul.

My comment: This is a player control foul. White #11 had legal guarding position and was charged into by ball handler Black #23. Calling official did not use the proper preliminary signal, did not get to the reporting area, and the officials did not switch properly after the foul.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

My comment: This is a player control foul. White #11 had legal guarding position and was charged into by Black #23. Calling official did not use the proper preliminary signal, did not get to the reporting area, and the officials did not switch properly after the foul.

Yep

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Yep

The only possible issue here is if the state / association uses different mechanics (punch; no long switch)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The only possible issue here is if the state / association uses different mechanics (punch; no long switch)

Which is the case in Oregon. This would have been the correct signal and the correct non-switch.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The only possible issue here is if the state / association uses different mechanics (..., no long switch)

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Which is the case in Oregon. This would have been the correct ... non-switch.

We tried no long switches here in Connecticut several years ago.

Our state guideline was no long switch when the ball will stay in the backcourt and when there will be no change in possession.

Best example was a ball handler getting fouled in the backcourt before the bonus was in effect.

Either because many didn't understand the guideline, or because many were lazy, officials didn't switch when they were supposed to, and we often saw no switching during plays when we were supposed to switch, like the play shown in the video (which included a change in possession).

When the IAABO Grand Poobahs observed this in our Connecticut state tournament finals, IAABO International put the kibosh on our short-lived (maybe one year, no more than two years) Connecticut no long switch experiment.

Too bad, I liked the no long switch mechanic (remember it's two person in Connecticut, so a long switch can occasionally be really, really long). It was our own fault, we screwed the pooch.

What does no long switch actually mean in states that use it, like Oregon? Please define. Thanks.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We tried no long switches here in Connecticut several years ago.

Our state guideline was no long switch when the ball will stay in the backcourt and when there will be no change in possession.

Best example was a ball handler getting fouled in the backcourt before the bonus was in effect.

Either because many didn't understand the guideline, or because many were lazy, officials didn't switch when they were supposed to, and we often saw no switching during plays when we were supposed to switch, like the play shown in the video (which included a change in possession).

When the IAABO Grand Poobahs observed this in our Connecticut state tournament finals, IAABO International put the kibosh on our short-lived (maybe one year, no more than two years) Connecticut no long switch experiment.

Too bad, I liked the no long switch mechanic (remember it's two person in Connecticut, so a long switch can occasionally be really, really long). It was our own fault, we screwed the pooch.

What does no long switch actually mean in states that use it, like Oregon? Please define. Thanks.

The way we're doing it is that when the lead calls an offensive foul, they return to become the trail. Also, when the trail calls a defensive foul in the backcourt, the trail returns.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... the officials did not switch properly after the foul.

The non-calling old trail "forced the switch" as he was supposed to do, but for some reason the calling official didn't accept the forced switch.

Sometimes officials just get turned around in the heat of the moment.

I like that the old trail, despite being correct, didn't hang around to debate the issue with his partner and just "got out of Dodge". Playing a game of, "I'm here (while pointing), no your'e there (while pointing)", always looks bad, and getting the ball into play smoothly always "trumps" getting the switch correct, especially if it's only once, or twice, a game.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO Make The Call Video

Does the ruling official use proper site of violation signaling?

What violation? He called a foul.