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Old Fri May 28, 2021, 03:06pm
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Long Switches ...

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Our state guideline was no long switch when the ball will stay in the backcourt and when there will be no change in possession. Best example was a ball handler getting fouled in the backcourt before the bonus was in effect.
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The way we're going it is that when the lead calls an offensive foul, they return to become the trail. Also, when the trail calls a defensive foul in the backcourt, the trail returns.
Thanks Camron Rust. The second part of the Oregon system (backcourt) sounds like what we were trying to do, and failed to do, in Connecticut.

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... when the lead calls an offensive foul, they return to become the trail.
I don't understand what is so "long" about this (offensive foul) switch?

It seems no "longer" than the usual switch when the lead calls a defensive foul?

Keep in mind that my mind always defaults to two person mechanics.

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Old Mon May 31, 2021, 06:05pm
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He got RFTO!!!! PC Foul all the way.

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Old Mon May 31, 2021, 06:12pm
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In Illinois, we would call this foul, report the foul in the reporting area and switch with the New Trail and become the New Lead. We only long switch when the lead calls a foul (or the other officials are in the half-court set). And they switch to the table side and the lead only comes off the endline if they are on the endline.

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2021, 12:52pm
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IAABO Survey Says …

Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...NivajxNQ%3D%3D

IAABO International Play Commentary: Correct Answer: This is a player control foul.

Black #23 receives a pass near the sideline and dribbles into the lane and jumps to try for goal. White #10 obtains a guarding position by placing his torso in the path of the ball handler, with two feet on the floor and facing his opponent. To be considered a legal guarding position, If the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal position before the opponent left the floor. (4-23-4) Since White #10 obtained this position before Black #23 jumped to try for goal, it is considered a legal guarding position, and a player control foul was correctly ruled on this play. The Lead official does not have the best angle on the play, but it was the angle that was available in this quick transition play. Officials should use proper foul procedures and get to the proper reporting area when communicating fouls. In this play, the ruling official should continue holding the foul signal and step toward the player who committed the foul. Stop and verbalize the color and number of the player who committed the foul. Verbalize the type of foul and give the appropriate signal. Since it is a player control foul, add the directional signal toward the basket of the team receiving the ball. Then verbalize the type of foul and give the appropriate signal. If player control, add the directional signal toward the basket of the team receiving the ball. The ruling official should end the sequence by indicating the throw-in spot before hustling to the table to report the foul. (IAABO manual p. 68) Officials should report fouls to the official scorer from the approved reporting area. (IAABO manual p. 72)


Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: This is a player control foul 99% (including me). This is a blocking foul 1%. This is incidental contact and should not have been ruled a foul 1%.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2021, 12:57pm
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Switching ...

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Do the officials switch properly after the foul?
Asked, but no comment on the switch?
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